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A Court of Mist and Fury, Part 2
Hey Nerds!
We have a special guest this week, Sarah! We had the best time diving into part two of A Court of Mist and Fury. We miss you Stacy!
Have you ever found yourself so immersed in a book's world that you forget reality for a while? This episode, we bring along Sarah, a dedicated listener turned guest, who shares that very passion for getting lost in literary escapes. We revel in the nostalgia of childhood favorites like American Girl Dolls and introduce fresh loves from Sarah's recent reads, such as "The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue" and "Once in a Millennial." Our shared laughter and stories form the tapestry of today's conversation, weaving through the threads of fiction and non-fiction alike.
Summary:
Feyre has undergone more trials than one human woman can carry in her heart. Though she's now been granted the powers and lifespan of the High Fae, she is haunted by her time Under the Mountain and the terrible deeds she performed to save the lives of Tamlin and his people.
As her marriage to Tamlin approaches, Feyre's hollowness and nightmares consume her. She finds herself split into two different one who upholds her bargain with Rhysand, High Lord of the feared Night Court, and one who lives out her life in the Spring Court with Tamlin. While Feyre navigates a dark web of politics, passion, and dazzling power, a greater evil looms. She might just be the key to stopping it, but only if she can harness her harrowing gifts, heal her fractured soul, and decide how she wishes to shape her future-and the future of a world in turmoil.
Bestselling author Sarah J. Maas's masterful storytelling brings this second book in her dazzling, sexy, action-packed series to new heights.
*Summary from Goodreads*
***Produced by Jen Hardin***
***Produced by Jen Hardin***
Hi, I'm Chanel, Hi, I'm Stacey, hey, nerds, this is Ashley and this is Fiction Fanatics.
Speaker 2:Okay, good morning. We're here. Good morning. It's a very special episode because we have Sarah on. We've been trying to get her on since the beginning.
Speaker 3:Yes, Hi guys, I'm here yeah.
Speaker 1:She's an obviously good friend, but a faithful listener, so we're really excited. Yeah, yeah, so yay.
Speaker 3:Thank you faithful listener, so we're really excited. Yeah, yeah, so, yay, thank you. It's so good to be here with you guys in person. I always listen and I feel like.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm hanging out with you, even though I'm in my car or at home with my boys it's like I have friends that I'm not really with yeah, I that's how I feel always when I listen to podcasts. I'm like, yeah, I'm part of the gang, but it's like that parasocial relationship you're not actually there, you're not actually hanging out. Yeah, this is fun.
Speaker 2:I always talk to myself when I listen to those kinds of podcasts. I'll just insert my own little. They're not talking to me.
Speaker 1:I'm like, well, this is wild they're laughing, and then you're laughing with them and and you're like yeah, we're buds, we're buds. But we are buds in real life, so it's nice, but yeah, okay, can we do some get-to-know questions for Sarah? We're going to put her on the spot, boy. Yes, so obviously the first thing we always ask ask is like what's your favorite book or series?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have such a hard time with favorites. I know you can pick one I could do like recent favorites?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like last year. I know, ashley, you've read it too. But the Addie LaRue book so good, that's one that I read probably about a year ago now and I still think about that one sometimes. It's just such a good character and I don't know. Just different than other books. I've read what else lately? Oh, I read one that I really liked. It's a nonfiction book actually. Am I allowed to talk about that? Yeah, we'll allow it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm blanking, we'll allow it.
Speaker 3:I told you about it Once in a Millennial is the name of it. Oh yeah, I feel like anyone born like between 85 and, I don't know, 90. 95.
Speaker 1:Something maybe, yeah.
Speaker 3:It was just so good. Like the author talks about all these things that we had growing up, like that I didn't realize were different, or that I don't know, they keep happening. I feel like like that really like defined our generation, and I guess they did like so many things she talked about and I was like, oh, I feel that way too. I didn't know that that was a thing like, and even just things that we grew up with, like the American Girl Dolls and Spice.
Speaker 3:Girls and all that stuff it was just a fun one to listen to. That's how I do most of my reading, but the author reads the audiobook, so that was nice.
Speaker 2:Did they talk about Tamagotchis? Because she didn't. I feel like she should have, though yeah, my co-worker my co-worker slash friend she.
Speaker 1:I was talking to her, we were on a um like a business trip and she was a model for the American Girl Doll magazine. Do you remember the magazine?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh my god, not until just now, when you said that. But yes, I, I do I totally forgot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she like. So we both, we both grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and she was like yeah, I, her name's Molly, coincidentally like the doll and she was like yeah, but she like flew out to California and they like had her riding horses and like for this magazine, american Girl Love Magazine.
Speaker 2:That's insane. What, what a cool, fun fact to have for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, but she also like at the time, because she was like whatever, seven or eight or something, like I feel like it wasn't. She said she wasn't like she wasn't appreciated, but like her, like other girls her age, didn't like like appreciate, like they weren't reading the American Girl Magazine at seven years old. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like it wasn't until like a little bit. She was a little bit older and then she and she didn't appreciate it. She was like I don't know, I'm just riding a horse, I just liked horses or whatever. And then she was more like 12 or you know, and then she was like oh, that, like I love American Girl dolls. And look at me in this magazine, I'm eight or whatever, but even now I'm like dang. That's so freaking cool. That is cool.
Speaker 2:So anyway, but yeah, it's still pretty popular too. American Girl dolls.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, my niece is too old for it now, but I remember when she was younger Like that's all she wanted. Oh yeah, american Girl dolls and stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean my cousins they are very rich and their daughters. Every single year we would go, I would help babysit for them. So I would go and help for their birthdays. They would have their birthday parties at the American Girl doll store.
Speaker 2:We would all go. It's in Chicago, right? Yeah, yeah, like this huge my aunt it's.
Speaker 1:I was jealous. I'm like 20 years old babysitting all of her, all of my cousins and their friends and stuff and I'm like, I'm like glaring at these kids because they're getting all these. I'm like what happened when I was 10 and I couldn't get this stuff.
Speaker 3:I just looked at the catalogs yeah, exactly Same.
Speaker 1:Take me back 10 years ago. So yeah, anyway, like you said, it's still really cool.
Speaker 3:So that book I would recommend for anyone in that age range, anyone that's a millennial girl, I guess. Yeah yeah, another one I listened to that I really liked was Tom Lake by Ann Patchett.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that's a Reese's book club. Yeah, oh, the really good cover.
Speaker 3:I get a lot of my books from that. I mean I don't receive them, but like I see her talk about a book and I'll add it to my list. Yeah, and they've all been good but that one. I recommend the audiobook because Meryl Streep reads it.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very cool, very cool. Yeah, I heard that was a good one, it was good yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know Favorite book series, I mean Harry Potter.
Speaker 3:I got into it later. I was in college, I think, when I started reading the books because I heard about them and I thought that they were like kids books so I didn't read them. And then my older brother did and liked them. I was like, oh, if he liked them, I guess I should read them too. I don't know, and that kind of ruined me for other reading for a while, I think, because they're just so good and it's like such an exciting storyline and like the whole universe was so exciting, and then it's hard to read other books after that but nothing good could live up to it the harry potter universe really is one hard to beat.
Speaker 1:I feel like she does such a nice job of creating that world yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, what about, like, do you have a favorite Harry Potter book? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Goblet of Fire is pretty great, oh okay, yeah, yeah big honker, you really hate Ron a lot during it just the games.
Speaker 3:And that was when, I like, we first found out that the Wizarding World is so much bigger than just Hogwarts. Yes, that's true, because you learn about the other schools and all the other things going on.
Speaker 1:I mean Voldemort officially comes back, like before. It was just he was half on Quirrell's head and then it was, you know, the diary. I mean he wasn't really back, so it's, he's back, yeah. So yeah, was that was a good book? A turning point? You know what I mean? Um, okay, so what is like your favorite genre to read?
Speaker 3:um, I don't know what it's called, probably like what do they call it? Chick lit. Oh okay, oh okay, oh yeah Kind of like rom-com type feel yeah, rom-com type things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's probably my favorite.
Speaker 2:Like the great banter and stuff like that. Yeah, or like really heartfelt fiction books, Like who's the author?
Speaker 3:Kristen Hanna. Have you already knew any of her stuff?
Speaker 1:No, but I've heard of her.
Speaker 3:It's all so good. One yeah, another one, One dark window Is that?
Speaker 1:is that her?
Speaker 3:No, I lied, I lied the women.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, and it's so. That's not a comedy at all, but um some of her stuff's historical fiction, like that one in the Nightingale. I know are both so good, just like really good characters and happy and sad. And yeah, looks good. Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, I'm trying to think. What else? What's another good question? Okay, so obviously you like reading audio books. You prefer that over just regular physical books or like it I mean I love.
Speaker 3:I love physical books. I feel like in my past, like before I had kids, maybe I read more, I can't even remember.
Speaker 2:Sarah has two young kids, which Chanel obviously knows, but I can just imagine you trying to read an actual physical book and, like Theo, just not having it.
Speaker 3:Between that and then, like I feel like I could make time to sit and read. I know that people do it and I know that I could, but I'm bad about like actually just sitting down. I feel like there's always something for me to be doing. I could go put the dishes away, or I could go I don't know make food for the next day, Like there's always stuff I should be doing. So audio books are just a little more realistic. And I listen when I drive too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's multitasking at its finest.
Speaker 3:But then the downside to that a lot of times I miss things in the audiobooks, like last night. I was trying to re-listen to little parts of the book for today, just so I would maybe pick up on things that I missed.
Speaker 3:The first time and Theo was in the other room mom look, mom look. And Owen was crying because he wanted food. And I was trying to like get some food on the plate for Theo and him and and I realized that I was trying to listen to this audiobook at the same time I was like, oh, this is why I miss this, this is why everybody needs me at all times a hundred things going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're trying, you're trying you're doing it all, so I have to go back a lot. Wait, what did they just say?
Speaker 1:I missed that entire chapter, that's so funny, but at least I'm like you're reading I can't even imagine, yeah, you can't imagine trying to do one. So kudos to you.
Speaker 2:You get a kudos early on in this episode For living life with babies, Because I don't know how people do it.
Speaker 1:No seriously, Seriously. But I mean Stacy does audiobooks too, Because it's the same way. Now she's got two kiddos, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sarah's filling in for Stacy today. Because, oh yeah, sarah's filling in for Stacey today Because she's still taking care of her new baby. So We've got a new mom in here now.
Speaker 1:New mama too so yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright, we're driving in. Should we get into it, because part two is a thick one. We are doing Part two of A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J Maas.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And for people listening along. It starts on page 135. Let me pull up my notes here. So part one we ended oh, I'm sorry, I get my now. I'm putting my phone too close to the microphone?
Speaker 1:oh is that a.
Speaker 2:Thing yeah we'll just make a weird sound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go, keep it.
Speaker 2:Keep it like six inches away, so like 12, six inches in the ovar um, we ended part one um with farah coming to the, to the night court. That's how I ended. She got out of the spring court and she's in valeris valeris um okay, let me start off.
Speaker 1:Do it with my criticisms of this book right away yeah okay, it's always really cool, obviously, when you know like, or you see the um, the title of the book in, like you read it in the book, right, or you like understand what the title is. But I feel like after I'm sure we'll get to it like after you realize like the title, or like in that one scene or whatever she says, missed in this book 500 times after that scene, I swear to god after which scene?
Speaker 2:the one at the end of the lemon scene, the lemon scene. Yeah, am I scene. Yeah, am I confused? I don't remember the woman's name.
Speaker 1:When he talks about his mom and like her origin story. When Reese talks about his mom and his parents like meeting and like what misting is Do you know what I'm talking about? Anyone, any of the listeners? And then he, like, explains it with a lemon anyone why am I?
Speaker 2:I remember him talking about his parents, right, because this is um, but now I don't know why I'm not remembering this scene now with the scene.
Speaker 1:So like can I? Can I say it? Yeah, okay, we're talking. So he's like explaining to farah like how his mom was like in this courtyard and then, um, she's like whatever getting tortured. And then his dad comes in and like, while she's whatever getting like hurt, he like missed a guy oh wait, yes, yes and then she's like what's misting?
Speaker 1:and so he like explains by picking up a lemon and he like missed this lemon and it like like pulverizes it and turns it into miss. And so ever since that scene she says the word missed I'm not kidding like 500 times. She's like we wake up to frosted mist here and then we missed it here. Like I'm like, okay, we get it. It's it's a court of mist I don't know if you're gonna continue listening, but I swear to god, mist is mentioned but now every chapter.
Speaker 3:I'm like okay, I wonder if you got like an ebook version, if you could do a word count and see how many.
Speaker 1:That's what I will. I know because I'm like I can't do it now, because I'm like I was, I'm already too into it.
Speaker 1:But oh my gosh so that's something I had to point out. And then the other thing is which you know we've I've already talked to you and I mentioned in the last episode is the diversity thing. It's new characters are still obviously, while I'm reading being introduced and the main thing was the mortal queens that we get introduced to and every white character, specifically blonde characters, are all described as like super beautiful and stunning and these beautiful, blue eyes and we've had a couple of brown, black characters be introduced, right like we will meet Tarkin and we'll meet this mortal queen, but none of them are described as being beautiful. None of them are described as stunning, gorgeous, whatever I mean. Even the black mortal queen is described as like this old crone who's Tarkin's described as being handsome, though.
Speaker 1:No, he's not.
Speaker 2:He's not Because that's how I pictured him. No, he's not.
Speaker 1:He's not. That's how I pictured him. I mean he might be, but he's no. None of those descriptors are used for him. They're only used for white characters.
Speaker 2:How did they just? I need to look it up later on how he's described in the book, Cause I don't remember it now.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I'm just like, okay, we get it. You think white, blonde people are the most gorgeous people, but it's like these subtle like indicators, that like are being projected into this world, into people who are reading this, and it's just yeah working me. So yeah, again, like I said, if you're probably not gonna read, continue reading this, since we're almost done. But I mean I've been skimming it again like through the audio book.
Speaker 2:I've been fast forwarding through it, but I've also, um, like I said, I've been listening to the audiobook for the third one. It's a little better. So I mean, not it's a little better, so maybe she's.
Speaker 1:Maybe she got some feedback and tried to make it a little better she heard some other people talking about it, but um, but yeah, I didn't realize that yeah, I'm just like this is we get it, we get it yeah I sometimes picture like actors or certain people as roles.
Speaker 3:As I'm reading, and before your last week's podcast, I must have missed, like the, how she describes some of the characters, because I I pictured reese, as we're just talking about bridgerton, but that guy from the first season of bridgerton- that's kind of how I pictured him oh so not just your basic white dude?
Speaker 1:that's interesting I feel.
Speaker 3:But then after your last week's episode when you talked about um the race thing and you compared him to loki, I feel like that's perfect, like for the stark and his sarcasm, and all that so then I started kind of seeing that yeah, well, and especially because she just says tan skin, like she doesn't and how tan are we talking?
Speaker 2:well then, it's interesting too, because as the series goes on and it progresses, when they when she starts describing Reese like in other books and maybe you'll see like it seems like she's describing like it's at least the way that I like read it she's I don't know, it's not like backtracking, but she's describing him like not as white, if that makes sense, or subtly, maybe trying to. I don't know, because I don't really I didn't picture him either, but that was just me probably putting who I wanted it to be what did you?
Speaker 2:picture him as I like, more of like um what's his.
Speaker 1:I don't know the riz Ahmed yes oh, you know who that is. Yes, you're just reading my mind that's why really, oh, so maybe the more like um uh, east asia, or not, um like middle eastern, yeah well to me. I, I thought, I thought, like, I think that that's who she wanted the Elyrians to be based off of, but she doesn't describe them as that at all. She should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because when I was reading it, but again I'm putting my own opinions into it.
Speaker 3:And then, especially when she started describing the clothes that Feyre was wearing for the first time I was picturing my own Aladdin type thing happening, I could see that and that's what I was picturing like my own Aladdin type thing happening I could see that and that's what I was picturing, yeah, but you know, that's just what I think I wanted, so that's why.
Speaker 1:I pictured it. I like that idea. So, except, my thing is just like, okay, and granted, I mean I have like greenish eyes, so I can't really say like I mean, I guess I'm half white, whatever, but I guess, I know, I guess I guess. So people come in different colors and whatever. But like, if you're Middle Eastern, your coloring is, you know, brown to darkish skin, for the most part. Right, like I said, everyone's different colors.
Speaker 1:You majority have dark hair, dark eyes. You're not going to have again, it's a fantasy world, I understand. Like purple, bluish eyes You're not going to like. So I'm like, stick to like the majority and gonna like. So I'm like, stick to like the majority and like, describe it like that, like you would describe him as having brown skin or almond skin or like like you know what I mean. And so just saying he has like sun-kissed skin, tan skin, like I don't know, I just think it's a cop-out, okay I'm done I'm done anyway, you know what I mean because, anyway, okay, okay, we can go, we can, we can always talk about it.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, okay, let's talk about it anyways. Um, let's start, let's start. So we're in the city of starlight. Yeah, we're starting city of starlight um, this part like so farah, she gets to her new home. It takes her a while to actually call her home. I'm calling it her new home. She eventually gets there but she um, a lot kind of happens here. She sees the town home for the first time. A lot happens in this section, I know I'm trying to condense it so that like the most important parts are I know.
Speaker 2:So she sees, like the two main homes that Resand and Cassian and Asriel and Moore and Amren live in, the townhome and the house of wind, and then the actual city of Valaris, and it's all beautiful, like.
Speaker 1:I want this townhome, it sounds magical Do you want to describe these people. Who are these people?
Speaker 2:Yes, because, um, spider, where On the map, kill it, kill it, you kill it. That probably didn't kill it technically, I just put a shoe over it. Difficulties, um sorry, before I screw into this microphone. It's far away, so it's fine, but it gets too close. So you know what I should have saved how she describes these characters. But Cassian and Asriel are Illyrian warriors. They grew up with Rhysand. Cassian is what? Right now the third in command, because it's Rhysand more than Cassian. He's the general of his armies, I guess, and he's like one of the most skilled fighters. And Azrael they call him a shadow singer Singer. I love him, by the way, like the more the series goes on, like azrael's my favorite series.
Speaker 1:That's how I feel I can't like. I love reese but like azrael's coming in hot, I know he really seems like your type, so I know I mean, they describe all these characters as beautiful.
Speaker 2:But, um, it's, I do think specifically, though. I think at I think azrael is described as like the most beautiful, though I thought I read, I don't know um, here I'm, I'm right here.
Speaker 1:They were all blessed with unnatural good looks. Yeah, dark hair, tan skin, hazel eyes. Oh yeah, he's the more classically beautiful. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:But he has my kind of guy he has burns on his hands. They talk about that poor baby, my poor baby, I know because you really love both these guys. They're just great guys, yeah, yeah. And then we've met Morgan in the past, but she's obviously there. And then we meet Amron for the first time, which, amron, is also one of my favorite characters, because she is described as shorter, with a blunt bob haircut and her eyes I don't remember exactly how she describes it, but they're kind of silver.
Speaker 1:Unnatural yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, human, I did tab a part where he kind of talks about Amron a little bit which.
Speaker 2:I thought was good. I'll read it real fast. It said so this is where Stan and now or what was this him? So she, so um feyra, is asking about amaran. He says in that war where your armies fail and cassie and azrael are dead and even more is gone, each word like eyes on my tongue. So that was fair. And then reese pauses his reach for the bold rock face before us. If that day comes, I'll find a way to break the spell on amaran and unleash her on the world and ask her to end me first and fair says by the mother what is she?
Speaker 2:and so like I instantly just love amaran she's just like this really powerful woman that nobody knows what she's it is like, but it's interesting because her and um pharaoh are like similar.
Speaker 1:They've been like made right versus everyone's just like a fairy, we don't really know what. Like you said, amaranth is what she was before she was a fairy, whereas obviously pharaoh was a human and then got turned into a fairy. But like she's this like other thing, like from the dark ages kind of, and so everyone is like they have this instinctual fear of her because she, um she doesn't eat. She's like almost like vampire-ish yeah, kind of um.
Speaker 1:She's like almost like vampire-ish kind of, but she's also a part of their like tribe right, and so they still love her and.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's like a one of those fear slash, respect things yeah they just have so much respect for her power or whatever it is that she's got. Yes, I pictured. I know you guys love Twilight and I pictured Alice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, it's a picture. It's a mix between her and like Pansy of like what she looks like oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they talked about how she's small but really powerful. Yeah, Like has those eyes like a lot of Alice.
Speaker 2:Yes, I actually this I actually this is really random, but and maybe it's because I had just watched that movie when I was like getting into the series more and Amron becomes such a bigger part in the other books. I don't know the actress's name, but the actress in past lives you made me watch. I like pictured her because she has kind of a short haircut. Yeah, and that I was like.
Speaker 1:Little Bob, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I just make my own cast and I want yeah, I just make my own cast and I want yeah, yeah oh, here see.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is the misted part. Misted, they floated a lemon wedge that had been garnished and then, with a flick, it turned into citrus scented mist.
Speaker 2:Wow, misty, that's how you say that, because that's a big thing in the third book too, and I must have just like forgotten that part in this book, this whole misting thing that he could do.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's still doing the third book, so get right well, I just was like I love lemon, obviously, and I was like, oh, this has smelled so nice, but they're all like horrifying. And then, like I said, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, here's mist again, here's mist again. The book called for chanel. He did like I said, I don't know about you, but like, does it ever like hit you? And you're like, oh, the title of the book yeah and then I'm like here it is again here it is now.
Speaker 3:I can't unsee it she's really doubling down, yeah hilarious, hilarious.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, oh god yeah okay, I'm reading your notes.
Speaker 2:Sorry, oh no, you're fine. Yeah, so like we kind of just the first part of the second part is more just. We're getting to know this new world, the new characters. I do remember reading this book and being like I don't know how I'm gonna keep track of all these new characters. That's how I felt the first time. Through four of them, right off the bat, I couldn't keep them straight at all. I mean now obviously, like when you get into it, it's much easier, but I was like, oh, I didn't think it was too bad really my mind can't take it.
Speaker 2:I got better. I don't know if it was because I was listening to the audiobook yeah, and so I wasn't actually seeing it on paper, like the names and stuff I was like and I guess this gets into her descriptions they kind of all originally sounded the same to me the way that she's describing like especially cassie and azrael. I'm like are they the same person at first? Besides, one has black shadows around him. Is this the only difference?
Speaker 1:but yeah, I think I think it was probably the audiobook, because I felt like they were. I felt like distinct, because I loved asriel right away and cassian I'm like he just seemed like a fuck boy, like he was just like this frat boy cassian. Yeah, I love cassian, like I, I I like him and I understand his purpose and do you know what I mean? Like you're an azrael girl I am like his, I like his personality, whereas I feel like distinctively, I could tell like cassian's this the outgoing general like bring levity.
Speaker 3:He wants to have a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of makes light of things, of things, yes, and as well as the humor in it, the serious, like he's the spy, he's, he's like gonna be in the corner like quiet and the one that's watching everything. So I think it was two distinct personalities, but I can tell in the audiobook I'm sure it's probably like dudes with wings, dudes the bat, voice the bat.
Speaker 2:The bat voice.
Speaker 1:I'm buying a Spotify that says that it's all over Etsy, I'm buying one. I know I'm like I haven't seen that. They call them the bat voice. I literally have seen yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll send you one of the yeah. Which one's your favorite bat voice, Sarah oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, or are you just a Rhys girl?
Speaker 3:First time I listened to her probably Cassian.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I like the like sarcasm.
Speaker 2:I don't know I mean Rhysand's still my favorite, but like yeah, I know yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't not like Rhys, he's the best.
Speaker 2:And then yeah, and then. So we get to know these new characters. We get a little bit of their backstories, not too deep, like I said. Cassie and Azrael were in the Lyrian camp growing up with Ruzand. All of their stories are so tragic. All of them are so violent they are.
Speaker 1:I mean, the whole camp is really, really violent and we don't have to get into the details. But basically they bonded because each of their stories is so terrible, and then they had to go to this camp, which is terrible, and and so they were like might as well be friends. Cause yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot of trauma bonding happening here. Yeah, so now they're buds and then Fabra agrees to fight and train with um, all of them, them. I mean this all happens pretty quickly, like she agrees to fight and train with them bruce and like almost immediately really opens up to her and tells her what's going on. But she's not been really given any of this information. From tamlin when she was at the spring court we learned about the king of highburn and that he's wanting to launch a war and that he resurrected I can never say his name, juryan, yeah, which was the guy that was in Amaranthus ring.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy to be for some reason to help him with this war and um, honestly, one of my favorite parts of this whole book is when she's training with Cassian. She trains with Cassian the most like physically because also side note she looks terrible right now. She's like really weak and thin and not been eating. But she trains with Cassian and there's a part where I think it's the first time she's trained I thought I tabbed it, but maybe I didn't and she pretty much like has this emotional breakthrough with him while she's doing it. She's talking about um. I know I tabbed this, hold on, because she's talking about Tamlin. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3:I think so is that when they're like boxing and she yeah, she gets so in her head and worked up about her thoughts on Tamlin that she punches right through the punching bag or something. Oh, yeah, because she forgets that she's got her new power Mm-hmm, and she's just talking.
Speaker 1:I did not tap this. I don't know where the heck it is.
Speaker 2:I thought it was like kind of in the beginning. I'm going to find this when somebody else is talking to me and I'll have to read it later.
Speaker 2:I'm going to find this when somebody else is talking to him and I'll have to read it later, but she pretty much is just like she does this whole monologue about how much she loved Hamlin, but she fought harder for him than he did for her. I don't know why I was listening to it alone or maybe I was just in my feels, but I cried when when she was doing this little monologue, because she was just she's been so sad and I just thought it was a great way about how this person was making her oh, oh, no, this that's way later I have it right here, yeah okay, yeah yeah do you want me to read it?
Speaker 1:yeah, if you don't mind um, okay, yeah, um, she goes. I had done everything for that love. I'd ripped myself to shreds, I killed innocents to base myself. And he had sat beside amaranth on that throne and he couldn't do anything, hadn't risk it, hadn't risk being caught, until there was one night left and all he hadn't want, wanted to do, wasn't free me but fuck me.
Speaker 1:And and then, um cassian saying like again, again, again, one, two, one, two, because she's boxing. And then she said, when amarantha had broken me, when she had snapped my bones and made my blood boil in my veins, he just knelt and begged her. He hadn't even tried to kill her, hadn't crawled for me. And, yes, he fought for me, but I fought harder for him. He had the nerve, once his powers were back, to shove me into a cage, the nerve to say I was no longer useful and I was to be cloistered for his peace of mind. He'd given me everything I needed to become myself to feel safe. And when he got what he wanted, when he got his powers back, his lands back, he stopped trying. He was still good and still Tamlin, but he was just wrong.
Speaker 2:And then she starts sobbing sorry, I don't know why. I thought it was so much um sooner in the book. But um, it's okay I know I put that as a tamlin tag because I was like that says a lot about him because then I was thinking about after that, when she was under the mountain and the one minute they got alone, he just like tried to bang her in that closet I'm like this dude is the worst like you didn't even try to like, he just sat like a dog next to amarantha.
Speaker 2:I know, I just tried to make out with her in this closet. It's gonna be helpful anyways, I know, I know, yeah, yeah but I do love because she's training. Um, she's like just deciding to try to, I think, be herself again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Is this part of the book? Is this the first time we really realized that Amaranth was just like the lesser of the evil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that revelation continuously comes because, like you said, we're learning about the king and and, like his schemes throughout the book, like, oh, he's doing this, he's doing and, and and. Who was it? Amron was the one that was just like well, okay, how do we learn more about what the King's doing? And she was like we got to go to the bone carver.
Speaker 3:The bone carver.
Speaker 1:And they're like where she's, like he's in the prison where she used to be held, and so yeah which is where that quote from, I think, amaran came.
Speaker 2:That I read earlier. I think it's before they go to the bone carvers where some of that history comes in, that we find out that amaran was imprisoned, and for like hundreds of years, and this it's just a prison. There's like no guards or anything. There's a bunch of dangerous. I kind of pictured Azkaban, oh yeah, because they make it sound like it's on an island, but I guess I think it's more underground, I think. Because In a mountain or in a rock, or something.
Speaker 2:Because, feyre, they need to go to this mountain to meet, or this prison to meet the bone carver and Feyre is kind of having a panic attack because she really hasn't been underground since under the prison.
Speaker 3:Right Under the mountain.
Speaker 2:Or under the mountain yeah. Amren gives her this. She thinks this piece of jewelry, this amulet or something that she says I mean, tricks her in a good way, says that she's got to return it. It'll help her get out of the prison if she needs to. It's like a safety blanket. So, yeah, so it's her and RuSan are going to the prison. They go together. There's not anybody else with them, right? It's just her and RuSan. Yep, and we meet the bone carver, who presents himself as differently to everybody.
Speaker 3:This was such an interesting character I.
Speaker 1:I loved this scene I don't know.
Speaker 2:I thought this was so I like this character. So creative.
Speaker 1:I loved, I loved this whole scene. It was amazing. It was amazing and so feyra sees him as this little boy like a 12-year-old boy, which I'm still trying to figure out what that means and why. Yeah, and Rhys sees him as Juryon, which I thought was so interesting.
Speaker 2:Because then you learn like oh, there's a history here that we don't know about yet with him. That is like significant which when I read the first first book, I didn't think this eyeball and this ring would end up being such a significant character.
Speaker 1:Oh really I mean, I just was, I thought it was a guy that she killed, yeah that's it why, when they talked about her sister and like how, how that affected herself, that was her reasoning for doing everything. I was like oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That, like you said that there was some history there. I'm like, why would you keep an eyeball of someone? I was like I just felt like there had to have been a little like more to that. Right, we weren't getting the whole story, we were joking about it Like this eyeball swirling around, but I didn't know how it. I didn't know it would connect to reese, or you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, so I thought that was interesting, um, but what does he tell him? What does he tell? Oh, about the cauldron yes, they're asking.
Speaker 2:If they're asking, they said because the bone carver says ask a girl. And they say if there was no body, nothing, but perhaps a bit of bone.
Speaker 3:I said as solidly as I could.
Speaker 2:Would there be a way to resurrect that person, to grow them a new body, put their soul in it and he just says yep's like sure is so which is it's?
Speaker 3:it's scary yeah, it's scary because they were trying to find out if the king really would be able to resurrect jorian right that's okay, yes, and he said the only way to do that is with the cauldron.
Speaker 1:But the cauldron is is in pieces right now.
Speaker 3:It doesn't have its legs, the legs of the cauldron, yes, they're broken up into different parts.
Speaker 1:Um, and so now they're like okay, great, now we gotta find where these parts are. And then he also said there's an ancient book, the book of breathings, breathings, and that's broken up and there's one in the fairy world and there's one in the mortal world, and the queens have it in the mortal world, and then they know that the summer court has it, and so if you get that, that will tell you how to, how to put back together the or how to dismantle the cauldron, right.
Speaker 2:The bone carver says that he tells them where the so he has, like he's asking for information from the both of them to tell them things. And he like tells Rhysand that if he tells him something, he'll tell him something. And Rhysand just tells him that his knee hurts every once in a while, or something.
Speaker 1:That's like the secret. Honestly, I don't know why. I think that's going to come back. You think so? Yeah, I know it feels so insignificant, but I don't know why. I know it feels so insignificant but I don't know why. Like I don't know why, I just feel like in like a battle or something. I feel like someone, I don't know why. I just feel like someone's going to like hit his knee or I don't know. I don't know, and I know it seems so stupid, but like maybe he's going to give that information and be like his knee is weak.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe that's stupid. Yeah, and then, um, he just tells him where the, where the actual cauldron is, and then I think he tells him that the feet are. So, yeah, the feet were hidden at three different temples and those have gone. We learned earlier that random temple, which we thought were random temples, have been attacked, but now we know it's for a reason. They were looking for the feet of this cauldron. So they're learning that high that the king of hibern is trying to get this cauldron to have its power. And, yeah, the bone carver's creepy, but it gives them all the information. Yeah, and oh, yeah, he likes, he likes bones. So when you obviously his name, but you have to bring him some kind of bone, when, uh, you go see him, so creepy, what did they take him? I don't remember. This time they took him. What bone was it? Oh, I can't remember. Yeah, now I can't remember. Yeah, now I can't remember it was um, hold on, I'm on the chapter with it, I know I have it too.
Speaker 1:I can't remember. What are they doing?
Speaker 2:The calf bone that made the final kill when Farrah slew the. Oh, the worm, the worm, yes, yep. So so that, so like, it was kind of like a bone of significance. And then it's like one traumatic thing after another in this book, because after this bone carver, I think it's pretty much right after we we meet the weaver, which not to ruin anything.
Speaker 1:When you get more of these histories of some of these characters, the third book is wild, but anyways so it almost reminds me of like like hansel and gretel yeah, right, like that's what I all I was thinking of. I'm like I have to go to some cottage. Yeah, I'm like, girl, don't go in here, don't do it um, he, he's.
Speaker 2:So the thought process is risan thinks that since Feyre has powers of each court, that she can sense objects of power from courts. So he wants to test this theory and kind of her, and he says that he has a ring that this weaver character has out in the woods and he can't get it because she'll sense him out in the woods and he can't get it because she'll sense him.
Speaker 1:This is, like you said, to test her, because it, when they go to the summer court, she needs to be able to sense this book and so, before, uh, putting her to the like real test, this is like a mini test, right? Yeah?
Speaker 2:that's to preface it. Well, we think it's a mini test, but it it's freaking not I know it's still a test. It's a pre-test. Do I have to tap it? I thought before they went here this is. I didn't tap it.
Speaker 1:It was. It seemed insignificant at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he's like I can't get this ring. He's like it's my mom's ring or something. I can't get it because she'll sense me. But she doesn't know who you are and since you have technically all these powers, it should confuse her and she shouldn't know. But yes, it's like a hansel and gretel gretel type thing. It looks like a normal cottage, but when you get up close it's like human hair is the roof yes, it's like a fast roof, but instead of straw it's yeah, and like in the chimney is like all like fat from like being roasted.
Speaker 1:Well, this was so gross to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and like she's this weaver, she's weaving skin right.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:She looks attractive and like fine bone and fine bone.
Speaker 1:It's like yeah.
Speaker 2:She ends up being a problem. Okay, farrah gets in here and she can't hold it together. It's a problem. This like just escalates so quickly. I was so mad at Rhysandre this chapter. I was like I could not believe he let her.
Speaker 2:I know go into this place because she's locked in there. Once she walks in, like there's magic that this weaver locks her in there, she has like a panic attack, yeah, and so the weaver could not sense her at first, but then when she starts to have this panic attack, it's almost like when she acts more like this human pharah. It's like the weaver can sense her then because she's the or at least that's how I took it, the way that I that she described it she could sense her but that would just be me, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I guess I just thought like I don't know, but she tries, she starts attacking her like trying to kill her essentially and, um, I don't even know if Rhysand would have been able to help her, honestly, if he had really, because he's out in the woods somewhere.
Speaker 1:Far far away.
Speaker 2:It was very anxiety-inducing. She claws her way through the chimney to get out and, yeah, it's like human fat Stuck in the chimney for a minute, but then she ends up like using her powers. Yes.
Speaker 1:Like tapping into her strength.
Speaker 2:and yeah it, like tapping into her strength and yeah, it's like she also kind of decides that she does want to survive. She's been kind of um, very depressed and not wanting to, just sad, and I feel like this is the first time she like starts fighting kind of for herself.
Speaker 3:There were a couple, a couple of times, I think, in this section. She talks about how maybe she should just die or maybe maybe she wishes she wouldn't have been turned into a fairy, and I like how reese, when he hears or senses her thinking those things through their bond or whatever, he tells her not to think that way and it kind of like brings her out of her depression, whether it's like making her laugh or distracting her or uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you can tell at some point if it's with the weaver, or through some of these trials you could tell she really decides she wants to keep going yeah, I think it's a combination of like her having like a fighting spirit, but also I think it's um, and she kind of talks about this later I tabbed it but like, I think it's also Reese kind of like subtly pushing her. Like you said it's, you know him making her laugh, or whether it's just showing her the city or all of that kind of is like pulling her out of this depressed, depressive state, right, um, she needed to kind of be reminded of that life is like good and she's a survivor. She survived before um, and yeah, like you said, it's um, she's like okay, I need to fight again, I need to continue training and um she's gotta get out of that chimney clawing her way out, yeah, and you kind of learn how powerful she really is too, yeah there.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, she gets out and she gets the ring and, uh, she gives it to resand or, yeah, she gives it back to him and, yes, she passed the test. She passed the test, she's gonna help him out. Yeah, and then um, and then. The next big part after this is we finally see her sisters again which to me. I was like man, we went a long time without without her seeing her sisters, because I was trying to think about it Technically, the last time she talked to them was before she went under the mountain.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's been months, so that was so bizarre because, you know, she made it seem like to Nessa that she might not survive and then, while they just haven't, communicated or anything for months.
Speaker 1:It's just bizarre to me and I wonder if she told them she was getting married, like if she like sent an invitation, like with tamlin or something, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But oh wait, maybe they did that happen. Now I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 3:I don't know but I wonder if they must have known she made it out from under the mountain. Yeah, because I remember. When she is talking to them now in this part, they say something about what happened with your first high lord, and I thought you were with, I thought you were getting married or something like that they knew that she was there.
Speaker 1:They knew that she was with tamlin like she made it out? I thought so, but so I think maybe they didn't like meet face to face. But, like I said, she must have sent him an invite, or they had to know.
Speaker 3:You know they were like sending little notes.
Speaker 2:Maybe she just sent him a little note. Yeah, alive. Um. And then to me there's a good part, um, when, so, because they all go to meet her sisters, cassie and azriel. More, it's like all these people in their house and um, you know, the her sisters are living very well right now. They're in like this huge estate, they're back in society, this kind of thing, um, but is it cassian? Yeah, yeah cassian kind of like puts nesta in her place and honestly I wish this was brought up more.
Speaker 2:I don't think this really spoils anything too much, but honestly this is the only time I feel like in this book and in the next one, where somebody brings up the fact that nesta just let feyra her youngest sister out into the woods all the time.
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to say. I tapped the shit out of that.
Speaker 2:You want to read it? No, go ahead. It just says Cassian's brows rose, lifted amusement to little amusement. To be found now Someone who let her younger sister risk her life every day in the woods while she did nothing. Someone who let a 14 year old child go out into that forest to close the wall. My face began heating and I opened my mouth to say what I didn't know. Your sister died died to save my people. She was willing to do so again to protect you from war. So don't expect me to sit here with my mouth shut while you sneer at her for a choice she did not get to make and insult my people in the process. Oh, because this must be the first time they find out that she's not human anymore either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, you're right. I totally love that because it obviously says something. Like you said, calling out nesta for um for you know hating on fairies, and then, like you said, then um calling her out for not supporting pharaoh, who's um, who's feeding her while they were like dying of starvation. But then, if, when and you do kind of, I believe, at at that point know Cassian's backstory, who was this Elarian warrior, who he himself was like casted out from his camp and, like in these like frozen tundra by himself, had to, like you know, fend for himself before Rhys and his mom like brought him in and so, like that hits home for him like to be like struggling child trying to like survive. He's like, come on, you had a sister who actually like took care of you, and now you're like berating her, like and when she is again coming to your defense Like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Trying to save you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and your people, yeah, because I haven't heard people anymore I loved that he like put her in her place and also I was like enemies to lovers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like I was like wait, also like there's because more there's more interactions between them again, which I tabbed throughout the book. But I was like wait, something else. They're both a little fiery. He's not my kind of guy, but I think it could be Nesta's. You know, you need someone to maybe put you in your place, nesta. So I don't like her, I don't like him, but they could be good together, I guess.
Speaker 2:I love their banter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so, anyway, so they're they team up?
Speaker 2:Yes, they're wanting to. Yeah, so anyway. So they're they team up? Yes, they're wanting to team up. And. Because they're going to need their help to get a hold of the human queens for this book. I don't know exactly when you learn this, but you learn that they cannot just take this book from a human queen. It has to be given willingly. Maybe the bone carver told them that or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I might say that.
Speaker 2:But you learn that at some point which Elaine doesn't really say much, but Elaine's like- she's around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, elaine's around.
Speaker 2:So, oh God, we're back at like the night court, well the the Laris. And not only is Cassian training Farah, but, uh, resandis too trying to train her new powers, cause she doesn't know, really know, how to access them or anything, but she has powers from every court court, so they're still trying to figure out how I guess how she can access all of them or how she can use all of them, yeah.
Speaker 2:Which I love. That, yeah, they think she does anyways, I think because she hasn't used all of them yet, but a lot of them have come out and so they're out in the woods, quote, unquote, training. And the otter shows up or the adder. I think it's adder, this really gross Wigan thing.
Speaker 1:He doesn't look like an otter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's not cute.
Speaker 2:Roseanne pretty much uses her as bait. I guess he knows that they're trying to track her or something.
Speaker 1:And they get this thing so they can interrogate it another time. We were a little iffy on reese, yeah, yeah, the weaver. And then this time I was like come on, reese, I know maybe that's why josh brown was like he's never around.
Speaker 3:yeah, because he leaves her there to try to. What's she supposed to try to do something with a candle? I thought, yes, light the candle and then put it out Uh-huh, and he just leaves and says practice Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:And then the adder comes and, like you said, it was kind of like bait.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's trying to kidnap her because the king of Highburn wants her Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:But he was sent to get her. But of course I mean he's there, asriel's there, and they get the adder Like she doesn't get taken. They torture him. Get some information, get some information that he was sent by the king and yeah, and yeah, and then around the same time I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think this is funny Feyre finally writes a letter, if you want to call that. It's more like a note to Tamlin. It's pretty much like I'm fine, Don't come looking for me or something we're through.
Speaker 3:I'm not coming back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't look for me. I was just like you know, and I feel this way with almost everything that we read. A little communication would go a long way here. Like she's not clear. She's not clear that she wasn't taken. She doesn't make it clear that it was of her own will. I feel like she's just like don't come looking for me, I'm fine. Like it's just very vague.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm grateful for all you did and all that you gave me. I'm not coming back. Yeah, don't come looking for me, don't come looking for me.
Speaker 2:Um, I know, god, that was, that was harsh. I mean, even if cameron is an asshole and like I don't agree with anything that he did, like you're engaged, you just up and left and you didn't even really say yeah but then like what?
Speaker 1:like a couple months later you're like oh, bt dubs, yeah months later.
Speaker 2:Let me write you a note. Maybe it's only been weeks at this point, but it feels like months it does it feels like a long time, a long time. When you actually find out the time frame of, like when the length of this book and all this stuff that happens.
Speaker 3:It's so quick Really?
Speaker 1:happens. It's so quick really, yeah like yeah, she's by the time they go to the summer court, which I think it's been like two months.
Speaker 2:Two months, yeah, okay, since the wedding, but the wedding that wasn't okay. The wedding that wasn't, oh, my god, yes. So after she decides to send this note, which whatever, um, then they decide to go to the summer court to find this book that they need, and this is when we get to meet some new characters. Um, I pictured not the characters, but the castle and stuff for the summer court, the way it's described. I pictured the little mermaid castle did you that's what I pictured.
Speaker 1:It was a little mermaid. That's exactly what I pictured.
Speaker 2:So when I was reading it, that's just what I pictured was a little mermaid. That's exactly what I pictured. So when I, when I was reading it, that's just what I pictured was a little mermaid. Yeah, um, and we meet Tarquin, which is the high Lord of the summer court, and and of course I didn't write down their names, but the two, it's what. It's his cousin, or is it his brother?
Speaker 1:I think it's, yeah, his cousin and then cousin. Or is it his brother? I think it's, yeah, his cousin and then like her brother. So, yeah, both of his cousins yeah are like his two, like nexon charge or something I think crusade, crusade, yeah, crusada and varian, I think, is which also, if him and amaran get together, he's like guarding Amron, because he knows he's like the head of his army oh yeah, because Amron's there oh yeah, amron's there.
Speaker 2:Cassian wasn't allowed to go because he was still banned from the summer court from a building that he destroyed the last time, which I thought was so funny, for some reason but yeah, and so like the head of Varian is the head of the Summer Court's like army and so he's like quote unquote, guarding Amren.
Speaker 1:But theirs is kind of like an enemies to lovers. He's like scared of her but he kind of, I think, likes her maybe.
Speaker 2:I loved them too.
Speaker 1:They're not in it very much.
Speaker 2:No, but just like I feel like there was something there.
Speaker 1:There's some tension, some kind of tension, I don't know, just a little amount that there was interaction.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to pull it up.
Speaker 2:So, like we spent some chapters Like starting with the summer court. It's beautiful, tarquin is very likable Describing the summer court. It's beautiful, tarquin is very likable and they're kind of using Feyre to like see if she can sense out this book. And she can't. She doesn't sense it anywhere within the palace we find out the book is like in this shack. That's like you can't see during high tide, I guess is the way they describe it. Oh, also, side note note, I guess I should mention she. When she's in the summer court she feels her powers for the summer court like really come to the surface. Since she's there, she can tap into it. She can. She's making little water animals a lot while she's there, which I love. She can really control water, throwing buckets worth of water and yes the other thing is how she finds out about this.
Speaker 1:Like shack temple thing is um, she goes into Tarkin's mind oh, that's right and this is the first time she's done it and she manipulates his thoughts because she has his essence in her. And so she goes into his thoughts and she like manipulates him and he starts like because he's like on to her, like why is she asking about this temple, um, and so she like like manipulates him and is like turns his thoughts away, like okay, you know she's like, she's kind and she's sad and broken. And you saw her with your people, you saw she treated them how she treats you and Amarantha did not break her kindness. So you know she's your friend, you know that'll basically that'll keep her from asking about this temple and like, she's like happy she was able to do that. But she's also very disturbed by how easy she was able to like manipulate this guy and she like talks to Reese about that.
Speaker 1:And yeah, that's like the first time she's really able to like mind bend, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2:So they really like him in the summer court. They're all really nice. Yeah, what does farrah say?
Speaker 3:at one point, her and tarquin are talking and she makes a comment you would be really easy to fall in love with, uh-huh yeah, yeah, she, and like she with tarquin and then reese with chrisada, they both kind of it seems almost like they're flirting to get information from them, like they're, but they, in doing that, they both get really jealous of the uh-huh which I I thought was funny yes, and gets really jealous because he can't be like tarquin.
Speaker 2:He's gotta be to be all dark and mysterious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, like you said, they're both just really nice people and it's a nice court.
Speaker 2:I loved them. I loved this whole court. I was honestly, I was really. I was so because Feyre talks to Rhysand about maybe just asking Tarquin for the book and telling them why they need it, and Rhysand is just pretty much, he says we can't risk it, and so I was kind of mad at them when they decided to go through with stealing this book and going to this temple. I was like you idiots Because I was thinking he would probably help them If they were honest Again, communication, communication.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:But her and Amren decided to steal this book and they almost drowned because of it.
Speaker 2:It was really scary, even with Amren being so powerful. This magic, which you even learn later Amren said this magic is older than her. I think it's really powerful magic and it's pretty much like booby-trapped. Yes, this whole temple place. They have to go through a locked door. They get like down all these stairs, they get into this room and then it starts flooding and the only reason they survive is because the water wraiths come and save them, because Feyre helped them in the spring court, which I loved so much.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like full circle. It was very cool, very cool. Am, it's like full circle, it was very cool, very cool. Amron's like wait, what? What happened? Like, how did yeah? Why would they do that? Because they're they're known for like being um, like isolated creatures not obviously not helping other people, but, um, but favorite is like, I helped them. I helped them at the time. She was like and they just start laughing like oh, she's like, oh my god, only you, only a human.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I thought very cool and um yeah, so they get this book. They have to winnow out of the summer court because now they're enemies of the summer court they find out yeah, um, I don't remember exactly when this happens, if it's right away or later in the book. I know it's in this book, but the summer court sends them blood yeah, it happens pretty quick um yeah which is saying they owe them a what they call a death revenge or something like that reese is really upset, he's really upset amaran not so much.
Speaker 2:She seems to like the ruby she does so she's like yeah the.
Speaker 3:The blood ruby means that basically there's like a mark on their head right like they're, yeah, they're gonna try to find them and kill them yeah, they got three of them, so what's for reese, amrin and farah?
Speaker 2:uh-huh yeah all three of them and, um, I feel like so much happens in this book, because then, after this, wait, can I, before we move on?
Speaker 1:yeah, so this is after um, this is right after they get the blood rubies. So Reese is in like he's really depressed, right, he's like drinking himself away Cause he's he wanted to be friends and like partners with the summer court and Favorite is trying to like like cheer him up or whatever. And she is she's like reflecting on it. And she's like you know, when I was like depressed and like going through this, like she's like trying to think of like what he was doing to help her, basically, and she's like am I not allowed to buy on your credits too, or does that come out of my personal funds? And he's like you know I'm not really in the mood to like talk or or like flirt or joke.
Speaker 1:And she's like he stayed and he fought for me week after week. He fought for me even when I had no reaction, even when I was barely able to speak or bring myself to care if I lived or died or ate or starved, and I couldn't leave him to his own dark thoughts or his own guilt. He shouldered them all alone. I held his death. She's like I never knew alerians were such morose drunks and you know he's like they're going back and forth, um, and but basically that's like her saying, like, okay, I need to help him, whether it's, you know, distracting him or or bantering with him or flirting with him, because he's. He's now in this like dark mood and becoming kind of depressed, and he's like fought for me when I'm, when I, whenever I had dark thoughts and stuff like that, and so I just thought that was so returned to yeah in the favor.
Speaker 1:Yeah like be his friend when, when he was, he was mine.
Speaker 3:So yeah anyway yeah, I don't remember if it was around here, but I wrote down a quote when they're talking about the book that they're trying to find I don't remember when she says it, but Amren and Farah were talking about it. And she Amron says wouldn't you want to lock away an object of terrible power so no one can use it for evil or their own gain? Perhaps they locked it away for their own bargaining chip if it ever became necessary. And they're talking about the book, but it just sounds so much like Feyre to me like with how Tamlin treated Feyre.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Feyre is so powerful no one really knows exactly what she can do, so wouldn't, wouldn't you want to lock that away and keep?
Speaker 2:it for yourself, not tell anybody. I didn't even catch up.
Speaker 1:I didn't even. Yeah, that's wow, wow, I liked that part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's good. Um, yeah, and then, if you guys are ready, we'll move on to this meeting with the human queens, which was annoying to read. Of course, the humans have to be bad. We just can't get any good ones. Um, what, there's like six of them, I think, but one isn't present. They say she's sick, sick. The meeting doesn't go well. I guess.
Speaker 2:Sum it up pretty quickly they're all kind of assholes they don't want to help them they do not want to give them the book and because, again, it has to be given willingly and I think even Nesta at some point says something. Or it's morgan, because morgan fought with. I mean they all kind of fought together, but morgan was close with a lot of the human queens in the past. She even tells them that they would be disappointed to see how they're acting now and we don't care about our ancestors.
Speaker 2:I mean pretty much. I'm trying to think if I tabbed anything from there, I felt like I was so annoyed by them.
Speaker 1:That wasn't the it's the next meeting, that's more important. Basically they say no and peace out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and then pretty quickly after this we get.
Speaker 1:Oh sorry. What they do say is we need proof. Oh they were like if you want, if you want us to give you the book, we need proof that you're like a good guy, Reese, you're a good um cause all we've heard is you're evil and dark and mean. Amaranth is whore yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, so, yeah. So this is why they decided to go to the court of nightmares, cause they're going to get that magical orb that will show a show them the. Laura is basically they're going to, excuse me, show the Queens of the Laura is how they plan on showing them that they're good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because because Pharaoh is like we can't actually show them. He's like, well, we can't actually show them. He's like, well, we'll show them through the orb. Like we can't, we're not going to take them to the city but we'll show them through this truth, orb that um show, show them that the city has been that Rhys did all that for his people.
Speaker 3:Yes, he had good intentions behind what he did, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, so that's their proof, like, hey, I'm actually a good high lord because I protected my people, and this is the proof. Yes, like you said. So now they have to go to the court of nightmares to steal it from moore's family, which?
Speaker 2:are pos's yes so moore's morgan's dad kind of like runs the Court of Nightmares right. Is how it kind of sounds.
Speaker 2:He's in charge when Rhysand isn't there. Rhysand tries to prepare Feyre for it. Because they all act differently at the Court of Nightmares than in real life. They try to be these very like almost evil, evil, cold type people. And Feyre, they're all dressed crazy. The women are barely wearing any clothing, is what it sounds like to me. And Farrah they're all dressed crazy. They're barely the women are barely wearing any clothing, is what it sounds like to me. Um, they show up, meet Morgan's dad. He's terrible, and Farrah is supposed to come off as like his pet or something. I guess is the way that I read it. I knew Chanel got to this point because she texted me. And Stacy, what did you say?
Speaker 1:it was like she's sitting on his lap and like their hands are all over each other, grinding, and he's like, um, his hands are like under her skirt, but they're just saying which I had tabbed it. I can read it yeah, there's some proof of my treacherous body. His arms tightened around me and my face burned, perhaps a bit from shame. But and then it said body's reacting. And then she goes. Sounded strained even in my mind, but he laughed, probably for my benefit. We danced around and teased and taunted each other for months and maybe it was my body's reaction, maybe it was his body's reaction, but the taste of him threatened to destroy me and consume me. And another male I've had another male's hands all over me when tamlin and I were barely, and then she's talking. She's like I'm fighting my nausea, but anyway, I'm like this is not your body reacting. I mean it is, but you like yeah, yes, oh, you also learned their wings are sensitive because when he was flying her to the night course.
Speaker 2:She, like like, touched his wing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I said that was my body reacting.
Speaker 2:They were talking about the wings.
Speaker 1:I was like ugh Anyway, oh.
Speaker 2:God yeah, bodies reacting.
Speaker 1:Bodies reacting Sure.
Speaker 2:Everybody's lying to themselves.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:God. And then Morgan's father says something terrible.
Speaker 1:Calls her a whore yeah that's what you'll get, what's coming to you, whore, and he just flips.
Speaker 2:He flips like breaks his arm a bunch or something and he's like you're not allowed to heal it.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, what a nice place to be, the court of nightmares um, but this is also um like, because I have you know the next page tabbed is this is when she really um, realizes she's like, literally, I need, if he, if he didn't walk away when I voiced what I wanted, which was him, like she, actually, I think like comes to the realization that, like, she wants to be with, with, with Rhysand you know what I mean Like yeah, I don't think I realized until she starts talking about that that they are at this point in the book.
Speaker 3:They're. They both are still acting like they don't have feelings for the other one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, idiots in love, right, yes, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then so this is like she's like I like I want to be with him, and then we can go. Like I said, is this like Starfall kind of? I think it's kind of the next thing. And that's when she's like I think I'm like Starfall is tomorrow night. That Starfall is when she's like okay, I have feelings for him, like I like quote unquote love him. She doesn't say it out loud, but you know what I mean. So she's like I want to be with him. Now I like I have feelings, I love him. So this is kind of when, you know, the ball really starts rolling in her mind. Then, yeah, it's maybe it was just seeing him, you know, eviscerate a guy, maybe it was just seeing him, you know, eviscerate a guy, I don't know, but it just does it. For yeah, yeah, but. But yeah, I had to tab that up yeah, star fall seems cute it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:It's supposed to look like falling stars, but it's souls, right? Am I confused?
Speaker 1:that's.
Speaker 2:That was like the legend or is that but then they get covered in it what do you mean? That hits them, the falling stars oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like what's happening.
Speaker 1:They're like all lit up yeah, sorry you, just it sounded so dumb. You're like star falls is like falling stars.
Speaker 2:I mean that's how they describe it. I know, but they just celebrate these falling stars. You just rearrange the words, like when somebody gives you the definition of something, they use the word and the definition. Yeah, I know I hate when people do that. I was like, okay, you did not describe that at all. It's some big festival they all everybody from, or a lot of people from valaris, it seems like, are at the house of wind and they're all dressed up and super romantic and they're out on this balcony, yeah and it seems gorgeous get covered in falling stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:If any, I can't even see where I tabbed anything here the other thing I just want to point out before we get to the final is um, she has like a little battle or standoff with Lucien. However, you want to say it in the woods yeah, that's coming up, oh okay, I didn't know if you were going to talk about it, okay oh no, we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2:Cool, cool, cool. Um, yes, because after this romantic thing that happens and they I think they're this when they both finally realize that they, like each other, love each other really, but wait yeah like each other but I still think they're kind of skirting around, like they don't really.
Speaker 2:It's kind of skirting around, yeah, but yeah, and now, because, like I said, I've been re-skimming this, I'm trying to think how this happens. Starfall happens and everybody Rusean, Feyre, am, mor, cassian and Azrael they all go to an Illyrian war camp. They're checking it out right and Rhysand is still training Feyre and they're out in the woods together alone and they run into Lucian when they're out in the woods. Did I miss anything big between there that happened? I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Nothing plot wise anyways it is there's a lot of romantic stuff I feel like that they talk about at starfall. They're probably skipped over, but it's really sweet um nothing major lucian. She can tell that he's she because she still has been training but she's obviously not fully trained to be able to control all of her powers. She can tell that lucian is going to try to grab her and take her back to the spring court so she's. She knows that if he touches her he's going to win on them somewhere. Yes, and did you have any of their conversation?
Speaker 1:I'm looking I did um, yeah, I did um, which I just thought was so sad. Um, she's like, basically, he's like. You know, he doesn't even really say I'm sorry. I'm like reading this anyway, not a man. He's like things got out of hand. You know we're not your enemies, but like don't give up.
Speaker 1:And she's like things got out of hand. You know we're not your enemies, but like don't give up. And she's like you gave up on me. You were my friend and you picked him. You picked obeying him, even when you saw what his orders and his rules did to me, even when you saw me wasting away day by day. And he's like you have no idea how volatile those first few months were. We needed to present a unified and obedient front and I was supposed to be an example to which all others in our court were held. And she said you saw what was happening to me, but you were too terrified of him to truly do anything about it. And she said it was fear. Lucien had pushed Tamlin to a point, but he'd always yield in the end, she said. And then he goes, yeah it is Yep.
Speaker 1:I know. And then she's like kind of putting on a front, like when you spend so long trapped in the darkness, lucy, and you find the darkness begins to steer you back and then she has like her wings come out, um. But the other thing I want to point out like you said, um, this was kind of in the war camp. Um, you find out the past between reese and tamlin, um kind of going back a little bit about their families, and you find out that tamlin led his father and brothers to kill reese's sister and mom, like even though he, I don't think specifically killed them, but he told them where, um, uh, his mom and sisters yeah, tamlin didn't physically kill them but he led them to them yes, so she finds that out and is obviously upset about that
Speaker 2:anyway, yeah, their family past is rough, is terrible, and then is obviously upset about that.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, their family passed. It's rough, it is terrible.
Speaker 2:And then Because then Rusan's father kills Tamlin's dad and his mom Did Tamlin know, that the whole family.
Speaker 3:Had Tamlin told Farrah that earlier.
Speaker 1:Yes, no, he just said his family got killed in the war or in some random okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know why I was thinking that tanlon only told half of that story to pharaoh yeah, she just said I don't think she knew any of that, but anyway, anyway.
Speaker 1:But um, yeah, I don't know like lucian was just making like excuses yeah, he does that a lot, I feel like. So which sucked, because I really thought they were friends yeah I think they are friends.
Speaker 2:I just think the lucian doesn't know what to do I mean he's got to be conflicted.
Speaker 3:he's been with tamlin's court for what centuries, probably, yeah.
Speaker 1:And like Tamlin and his court protected him when he was obviously in a bad spot, like coming from his family and his court, which didn't seem great Uh-huh. So I'm sure like he feels some kind of loyalty and gratitude. So he's like you know, what do I do? You know, and um, I mean he doesn't know Farrah that well, you know, like I mean you know they're friends but like I don't know, it's probably it's hard, it's hard, but at the same time I'm like but at the same time I'm like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh. So here I have a little quote from here too. Put the arrow down. Lucian murmured like he was soothing a wild animal Behind him. The four signals closed in, hurting me, the high lord's pet in possession. Don't I breathe, don't touch me. You don't understand the mess we're in favor of we. I need you home now.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm ask for, in favor, we I need you home now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's probably uh-huh being commanded to find her. I wonder if he can kind of see what's coming like, if he thinks if he can get farah home quote unquote even though it's not her home anymore, um then maybe they could avoid what he sees coming, maybe avoid tamlin flipping out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, raising hell like he can save everything I can go back, I could yeah I do so maybe he has kind of good intentions yeah trying to capture.
Speaker 2:I think I don't know. Lucian always has good intentions. I just don't think he just doesn't know. I I don't know. I do like Rhysand, though, here, because he does show up eventually and he says careful, lucian Rhysandraald, or Feyre darling, we'll send you back in pieces too. I just love it. Because I love it so much, because Rhysand loves how powerful she is, whereas, on the opposite of that, tamlin, I think, was I, I think a lot of it was because he quote unquote loved her, but I think he was also jealous.
Speaker 1:She's so powerful. I was going to say I didn't think about the jealousy, I didn't think about that. I was going to say I thought he was scared, like scared of how powerful she was.
Speaker 3:He didn't know, or awful she was, he didn't know or or protective in a way which isn't good, but like yeah, yeah, I think a lot through this book you see, like how tamlin and resand love her differently. Like tamlin wanted to keep her safe by walling her in, yeah, not letting her out, even like when she asked to go hunting or asked to go train or whatever.
Speaker 3:He wouldn't let her out of the house where resand lets her do her thing um treats her more as an equal? I think yes, which is what she wants and needs and needs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, definitely. And and that like is obviously how she's like come around to him, you know, like where she didn't like him or hated him, or tolerated him, and now she's like seeing him as a potential suitor. You know what I mean. Because, yeah, she's like well, that's obviously not working with this guy who can't even, um, listen to me right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, um, lucian does not get her, they get away, um, and so they're still out in these woods they go to. This is what you texted us I thought you were texting about at the last. I think it was last night when you texted us about the attic scene. It was this, not earlier at the night court, is what I thought you were texting oh no, no, this is yeah, yeah we get a one bed trope in here, which is nice.
Speaker 2:They go to this end. There's only one shitty room left and it's like in this little attic that they can barely fit in with this little bed. Um, and it gets a little spicy. Um, they don't have sex, but they do other things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, rosanna does other things. Yeah, wait, what is it? Is it third base? I think it's two, I don't know the bases.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big baseball fan, I think it is third base, though.
Speaker 1:Is it third base? Yeah, I just liked that his wings were wrapped around her.
Speaker 2:it was yes, yeah, yeah I know I'm into this wing thing. It's the new thing I didn't know I'd be into but yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 1:I liked it too just because, um, I just liked all the lead up to it. A, not a foreplay, yeah, but yeah, I thought it was super steamy and and also cause the room was super small. So he's like we can't do anything more than this because we can't have real sex, because there's no room for me and my wings to basically spread out.
Speaker 2:It was a tiny little room. Yeah, yeah, the lead up didn't sound super romantic cause it wasn't a tiny little room. Yeah, um, yeah, the lead-up didn't sound super romantic because it wasn't a very nice room and they were freezing and dirty muddy, but yeah dirty and muddy, but it got better after that.
Speaker 2:She got some nice pleasure um, and then after that they're in the woods again the next day and all hell kind of breaks loose. I guess they're flying, or yeah, he's flying with her, and these ash arrows come out of nowhere and attack him. Oh, my god I was like is he about to die? Like?
Speaker 3:I know he doesn't because of the series.
Speaker 2:I thought so too, but the way that it's written, you think that he's dying? Yeah, he has no powers. Wow, that's a twist. I did not see coming. Yes, I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 1:He drops her? Yes, because he like, like you said, all his powers are depleted and he can't fly anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she Well. Powers are depleted and he can't fly anymore. He uh, she well. And they now hold on because it's, let me think, because it's all running together, they get him away right and she tracks him yeah, there's a whole bunch of like soldiers or sentinels that yeah take him and they
Speaker 2:split up yeah she does find him. He's chained to some cave wall with things through his wings. You find out it's objects that take power away from fairies, so he can't use any of his magic. He's pretty much dying. Is the way that it's described. She gets him, she rescues him and finds another cave to hide in.
Speaker 1:I mean, she kills all of these soldiers like she's mad she I mean because she kicks the mass.
Speaker 1:She had never really like winnowed, she'd only like winnowed once before and she, like you said, she's like tracks him all the way to this cave and like it's like stealth. She like winnows, like blinking into this cave and each like blip. She like kills each of these guys. It's so cool, it's crazy, um, and like kills them without a second thought. It's like insane, um, like an assassin. It was insane. And like he said she saves him and um, but he has like there's poison on the arrows so he's still slowly dying, even though she gets him away it's cold, they're cold, they're in this cave.
Speaker 2:I do like this. She decides she's gonna seek out this cereal, as I say it, cereal again, serial called the cereal to find out how to save him. I I thought I tabbed it she obviously she catches it. Obviously these things her and the cereal are best friends and they just don't know it yet because she's letting favor catch her. That's how I feel at this point. She wants to talk to her, yeah well, you think it's a girl.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I guess the cereal doesn't have a gender, it's non-binary.
Speaker 2:I just assume any powerful being is a woman.
Speaker 1:God is a woman.
Speaker 2:I love it. Did you either one of you mark the actual quote? Will you read it? Because I didn't mark it, but it's important.
Speaker 1:The high lord of the night court is your mate Boom, but I mean originally.
Speaker 2:Originally she says if you want to save your mate something quicker, get these flowers oh, oh you want that one.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, it's just because I was like that's the real quote, all I care offhandedly. Yeah, she drops, oh yes, okay here, yes, okay, um, it's your blood. Give him your blood, curse breaker. It's rich with the healing gifts of the high lord of dawn. It will spare him from Bane's wrath. A few mouthfuls will do If you wish to speed your mate's healing. In addition to your blood, a pink flowered weed sprouts by the river. Make him chew it. The word clicked through me, mate. What did you say? Weed sprouts?
Speaker 3:by the river, make him chew it.
Speaker 1:And then she said the word is like wait. The word clicked through me, mate. What did you say? If you wish to, the cereal paused, grinning showing nearly all those brown thick teeth. You did not know, then say it. I gritted out the high lord of the night court. Is your mate interesting?
Speaker 2:I just love, love, love, love. That fair's reaction to this is anger. She's so mad.
Speaker 3:I don't quite understand, I guess, why she's angry about it. I would be just shocked yeah like I think there would be a little anger because he didn't like just be shy to tell her if he knew and didn't tell her yes, I think there would be underlying anger.
Speaker 2:But she's so angry I know she saves his life. And then when it was back to this camp and she's yelling, this is all she said.
Speaker 1:You don't get to ask questions, you only get to answer them, nothing more. That's what she said, and then chucks the flower. I'll save your stupid life.
Speaker 2:So mad, so mad, yeah, so I'll save your stupid life. So mad, so mad, yeah. She saves his life angry, gets him back to the camp and demands that more. Takes her somewhere to be alone and not tell anybody she ends up in the cabin.
Speaker 3:This cabin three days.
Speaker 2:what, yeah? What does it say? She says, yeah, she's alone, no one around for miles. I stood in the silent cabin and stared at nothing. She's in this really fancy cabin that I would like to go to personally. In the middle of nowhere, away from everybody.
Speaker 1:And that's the end. She's just pissed.
Speaker 2:Pissed, but they're mates.
Speaker 1:And now you're like is he alive, is she? Yeah, how is she going to react? What's going to happen now that she has a mate and it's not Tamlin, which we already knew, because the serial told her to stay with the High Lord, but he never said which High?
Speaker 2:Lord, uh-huh, that's's right.
Speaker 1:Uh huh, oh yeah right now serial knew should have, he should or they or she should have clarified which one I know, because I I think I told you I I called stacy up after that chapter. It it was like a random Tuesday afternoon and I was like he didn't say witch high and Stacy starts laughing and she's like I know I said it's probably Reese.
Speaker 2:I loved all the foreshadowing in the first book for this Like when he stumbled. The first time he saw her, when she was a fairy Disappeared. Remember that, yeah. Yeah, it's like ugh yeah, when she was a fairy disappeared remember that yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like oh yeah, there's so many little things that sarah j moss puts in that you don't realize until later, like, oh, that was a big deal that tiny little thing that happened in the first book yeah, yeah yeah, I like it, I like it so what was your guys's favorite part of this part of the book, this part of this part of the?
Speaker 1:book. I already told you I love the bone carver scene.
Speaker 3:I thought that was really interesting I thought that was really good, good take on it and I like how they saw different things and um, yeah, I thought it was a really cool scene different, cool character yeah, that may have been my favorite like event that happened, but I just like the banter back and forth and kind of the relationship building like the characters we already knew, but seeing farah and resand get to know each other more and like so us getting to know them too yeah, yeah, that was good um yeah, like learning his backstory yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean I talked about earlier, but how they treat her like, how they give her so much freedom and you just start to see that's what, that's what she wanted from tamlin and that he would not give her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I love it right yeah, um, favorite part is probably when she's training with cassian and has that little like breakthrough. Oh, yeah but, um, also I loved the time at the summer court, especially with amaran, because I love amaran and I love that she got to be a part of something and yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she's a cool character yeah, yeah, I'm excited to see her in future books?
Speaker 1:yeah, have you only read this one or have you read any other ones?
Speaker 3:I'm ready to start the third one, but I didn't want to start it until after the podcast yeah, because it runs together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm having a hard time with it.
Speaker 3:I was afraid I would get it all confused in my head. Yeah, I haven't started it yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you going to do the audio book for that too? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and just the classic audio book, not the one that Danny's doing with all the character voices.
Speaker 1:It sounds kind of cool, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:I was wondering what you were gonna do. Yeah, a nice dramatic reading. Yeah, nice and spicy. Um, should we do some kudos? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, my kudos is for sarah, obviously, because you're amazing and I know you were nervous to come on. I'm so excited that we finally got you to come on, yeah, and and that we could like work into your schedule because I know you're so busy with the babies.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely Any other credos?
Speaker 2:Well, I guess Stacey too, since she's not here. I'm just kidding. I love, we obviously love Stacey so much. I miss her not being here, but she's such a good mom and she's just so. She's a week postpartum now, or yesterday would have been a week. So Ivy's a week old Little babes, she's just doing it. Yeah, and we miss her. And for you too, chanel, because I know you've been so busy with work and everything lately and you're making time for this when it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, just all the women out there doing it Really crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just all the women out there doing it Really Always. Yeah, but I'm not a mom so I can no excuses.
Speaker 2:Still, though, school work and, mia, you're busy.
Speaker 3:Mia yeah.
Speaker 2:My crazy cat. Where'd she go? She made her appearance earlier.
Speaker 3:That precious girl, where is she?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, my kudos is also to you, sarah. Yeah, thank you so much, seriously, like you and danny, I know you guys were both nervous to be on, so and have you on back to back is amazing. Like ashley said, thank you, and I know you're super busy and stuff too, so we appreciate it and also just thank you for listening and supporting our podcast really it means a lot seriously, if we only get one listener and it's you we're super happy.
Speaker 3:Tuesday mornings.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much so, yeah, that's my kudos and yeah, seriously, like I mean also just you, ashley and Stacey like love making this podcast with you guys. It seriously makes my whole week. So yay, yay, yay, yay, thank you.
Speaker 3:Do you want to?
Speaker 1:get some.
Speaker 3:Yes, Okay, you too. Obviously, Obviously yeah, and seriously it's kind of rare for me to have friend time outside of being at work. So this was great. It gave me an excuse, like forced me to get out and hang out and see you guys. Thanks for rearranging the schedule a little bit. I've got to get to a t-ball game, mom time yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you were able to do it kind of early. Just make Josh do it all this one time.
Speaker 3:Well, that was one of my other kudos. Okay, Josh, he's doing breakfast and stuff with the boys this morning by himself, which I mean he'll be fine, yeah.
Speaker 2:Josh is fine yeah.
Speaker 3:He can survive. Yeah, but mostly you guys.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much.
Speaker 3:Thanks for doing all this every week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like we'll have to have you back. Yes, pick a good book that you like and that we're reading. So check it up a little bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're excited. We're excited to have you back. So, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you everyone for listening and you got to lead us out, like Stacy's here.
Speaker 1:You got to do it. Thank you for listening and read what you like.
