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Fanfiction Frenzy: Diving into the World of Dramione
Prepare to join us on a magical journey! We'll expose our patronuses and reveal how these magical creatures are indicative of our personalities. Not only that, but we're also brimming with anticipation for our upcoming trip to England, where we're set to explore iconic Harry Potter locations. As we discuss the potential adventures waiting for us, we also tackle the nuts and bolts of relocating and the difference in taxes between America and various countries.
The discussion takes an exciting turn when we dive into the riveting world of Dramione fanfiction. Prepare to be enchanted by the narratives that have captivated us, from a time-traveling child in "Two Years After the War" to the slow-burn romance of "Remain Nameless." We also emphasize the importance of mental health representation in fanfiction, using "Remain Nameless" as an exemplar. For lighter moments, we recommend a Dramione kid fic called "Orillian."
It's a mix of magical adventures, literary explorations, and thought-provoking discussions. Grab your wand, your favorite fanfic, and join us in this magical and intellectual rollercoaster ride!
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I liked how to double check with my patronuses. It's an otter, bt dubs anyway, but Lacey, what's yours?
Speaker 2:Mine's an otter, oh, mine was a rat when I took the test, online or not? A rat, a bunny, I'm sorry, a bunny, I'm gonna say a rat. I was thinking of that stupid rat, about the yellow rat. It's a wild rabbit, mine is a fox, ooh nice. So foxes eat rabbits.
Speaker 1:Do you mean, that's nice, I'll protect you. I just think that foxes are cool. They're sexy facts.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's me yeah. But I was when I went to go double check with mine Hi this is Chanel, hi, this is Stacey, hey, nerds, this is Ashley and this is Fanfic. Fanatics, I'm up all Everybody. Get it out of your system, get comfortable, so we're not banging mics around, wait what is yours you should take in flying cars for adventurous this. Witches and Wizards, devon, england. It looks like something Arthur Weasley would wear, yeah Well it's his car.
Speaker 1:You know we might be going there. Sorry, just rub that in. Rub a little dirt in it.
Speaker 2:Don't make her cry this early, that's all right.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it's a possibility.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, so.
Speaker 1:It's Devon.
Speaker 2:It's Devon.
Speaker 1:It's Devon A-A-Rong.
Speaker 2:It's like Devon, me and Chanel are that's how you say it in Beach Grow Chanel, beach Tucky. You say Beach Tucky like that. Don't try to church it up, son Joe Durte, we're just all over the place in the first two minutes. I know right, we're not rubbing it in Stacey's face, but me and Chanel are going out of the country in April. Yeah, they're going to England.
Speaker 1:See all the. Harry Potter spots without me, it's fine.
Speaker 2:I think we should make a Like one of those little things that Stacey's had on it, though, and we can take photos with her everywhere, so she's like we really should.
Speaker 1:She's there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like I'm there. We really should.
Speaker 1:We really should, because I haven't actually read this thick, but I was looking at places to go in England. That's like one of the first countries we're going to go to, and from Wiltshire with Love. I was looking at Wiltshire was one of the places that I was thinking of going and I was like, oh my gosh, that would be so cool if we get to go there. Obviously we're looking at like Bath and stuff like that, but it made me think that's a really good Drumini thick.
Speaker 2:I've heard I know Ashley dropped in on me the years ago in Edinburgh. That's cool. Yeah, edinburgh Castle, yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's the only top five thick for me. It's fine. I wish everybody could see my face Huck word, huck word. No it's okay, I can't go with them because I will be nine months pregnant when you guys are yeah, so they should have babies. Can you imagine me just wobbling around?
Speaker 1:I don't think you're supposed to fly when you're that far along. No, I can't I can't?
Speaker 2:I'm not supposed to go anywhere.
Speaker 1:You can't even get a house.
Speaker 2:But you're not due in April. Yeah, no, I'm due in May. I'm due in May Because I'm going to. I got to be there. Better hurry back.
Speaker 1:Exciting. We'll be back in time. Maybe we might just stay there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't make any promises, not that. Yeah, no joke.
Speaker 1:We're like, we love it over here. We're never coming back.
Speaker 2:I wasn't going to be you guys. I was thinking that the other day Because I was on BuzzFeed and I was just reading articles and one of the articles was like Things to Baffle Other Countries about America, and one of them was like that we have to figure out our own taxes. Yeah, and so yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why we have to. No other country does that. Their country does it for us. So then it was just funny on the BuzzFeed article. So it was like someone talking to someone from America. They're like so you have to figure out how much you made a year. And they're like no, the government knows. And they're like so then they do your taxes. And they're like no, you have to do your taxes. And then you pray you got it right. They know if you got it right, and then they test you. And if you got it wrong, then you get audited. You know it's a person who's just like oh, it's because those companies that you have to pay to do your taxes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what taxes and stuff like that they like pay.
Speaker 2:They're like, what is it Lobbyist or something? They send all this money to politicians so they make it difficult.
Speaker 1:It's all scams. I know. Like isn't that weird? It's like, like he said, like it's like a test, like oh, this is right.
Speaker 2:That is Guess what Didn't, guess what Didn't, yeah, but it was just like that's, like one of the little things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all that is so weird. It's so weird. So the other thing is, because I know this was maybe like last election because everyone was super hyped I think it was, you know, biden and Trump, you know and people were just saying I'm not going to vote, blah, blah, blah. So then I was watching whatever it was some news, tiktok or whatever real, where they went to like Australia, and they were like do you guys vote in all the elections? And like just pulling people on the street. And they were like yeah, we have to. Our country, our government, makes us vote in every single election.
Speaker 1:And they were like do you know in America that you don't have to vote? Like it's, you know, obviously like free will or whatever. And they were like that's stupid, like why wouldn't you do it? Like it's literally not that big of a deal, like it's just not like on election day you just go in and vote and then your voice is heard and like whatever, it's not like. But then they're like well, do you feel like pressure to do it? Like no, it's just a thing? Like yeah, you have to. It was part of like being a citizen. It's like your civic duty, civic duty, had to go on and vote, and. But it also means that you can't complain when stuff happens and stuff gets put into law or because you've made your voice known. They just like were so mellow about it, but also like I don't know, it just wasn't, like, it just wasn't a big deal to them. They were just like why wouldn't you vote? But like also like why do people get so mad about these elections?
Speaker 2:Because it's just it's just a thing, and this is why I love RuPaul's Drag Race, because he's always telling people to vote every single episode. Get out there and vote.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was just, it was so funny, I don't know. They just were just like yeah, they make us vote, we vote and we're done, we're done.
Speaker 2:I like when they pull other countries about prices of things, like it was like England and they're like how much do you think an ambulance ride is in the United States? And they're like $30.
Speaker 1:It's not free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not free. Yeah, I know. Or they're like how much do you think like insurance copay is, and they're like copay what's a copay? I know it's so funny.
Speaker 1:I know so funny. Oh my God, yeah, or how long do you think like maternity? Or paternity leave and they're like two weeks.
Speaker 2:Well, we're like two weeks and they're like baffled, they're like two years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, honestly, I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2:So when Ashley came and brought me coffee she's an angel she was telling me she went to her like travel agent and she was telling me about it and yeah, mine too, yeah, whatever. I mean, shout out to Amanda Coleman, she's a base eater. So, anyway, I was at work killing myself, saving lives, and I was sitting there thinking and someone had said off handed to me oh, isn't it so lucky you were here, because federal employees in America now which is the only place because it's mandated Just federal. Just federal, which I am.
Speaker 1:Good, that was cute, the eye roll Good.
Speaker 2:But she, they were like, oh, at least it's so lucky you get 16. 15 weeks of maternity leave, like it's a vacation or something.
Speaker 1:It's my biggest party.
Speaker 2:It's one of my biggest, and so then I started sitting here thinking I'm like this country is fucked up, man, I literally just expelled a human into this world and so I already have Toby. Obviously, for people who don't know, I have another son who's getting closer to two, and when I had him I had the three months off, and even three months. First of all, anyone who has any idea or even has a child knows it's no vacation to be home for three months with your child when they're new in the fall. But it was not enough time. Yeah, they're a baby at three months. Like I just had to leave, I'm gone for 13 hours a day on a good day, you know what I mean. So I went, and now when I'm gone, if I work days in a row which I have been I won't even see Toby for like days on end. It's a lot of whatever. This country fucking sucks, dude, I know.
Speaker 1:So my best friend, molly I can't remember if I've like talked about her before on here, but she lives in Prague in the Czech Republic and she doesn't have any kids, but a lot of her friends over there have kids and she's a teacher over there and she's talked about how they've gotten pregnant and then going maternity leave and they just don't come back because their maternity leave is anywhere from a year to two years they can take. They can tell like the country of the Czech Republic, and be like I'm on maternity leave, I want to be gone for a year and the school or wherever they're working over there has to hold their position and and then usually by that time I mean a lot of people have another kid, like you, you know You're pregnant again, and then they're like, okay, well, maternity leave again and just extend. And a lot of times by that point they're like I'm just gonna stay home. Yeah, you know like, but I like just gender prepare. Yes, it gives them to.
Speaker 1:Literally now they're just a stay-at-home mom, you know, they mean and and sometimes like that works with their lifestyle. Other people doesn't, you know, work with their lifestyle, but it's just her. She's just like baffled, obviously because she's From America but she's just like, oh my gosh, like this is really nice, like a great way For Europeans obviously to be able to like be home with her kids, and they're like very focused on that lifestyle. But she's also had on American friends who live in the Czech Republic and Czech Republic who have gotten pregnant and are like, oh, I have to and I understand to an extent, but they're like I have to go back home and be with my family in America and then they go back home and then they have no support. Well, yeah, but six weeks or whatever the heck of maternity leave, when you could have stayed in the Czech Republic and gotten a year of maternity leave you know to me and I understand like yeah.
Speaker 1:You want to be around your family and friends when you have a kid. Like I'm not a parent, but like wouldn't you want to take advantage of as much maternity leave as possible? Like maybe just stay there for a year and then go back to America?
Speaker 2:or something, visit you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or something like that. And again, I don't know people's dynamics, you know I'm making judgment, but like I feel like in Europe they are very Good about helping families, you know, with that early transition lifestyle, you know so and Because our friends Josh and Sarah.
Speaker 2:They recently had a second kid and we all work together, so they both had maternity leave and paternal leave at the same time and people would like make jokes Sometimes. Like make jokes with like airbunnies, like I don't think they mean to be insulting or anything they're like, but they're like a vacation or something. I get so worked up about it. I'm not even the one that like had a baby or anything. I'm like it's not a vacation. It's not a vacation.
Speaker 2:And how nice to have two parents that are around how rare in that time it's so stressful with a new baby, especially if you have another kid like it just makes me so mad. It's like I don't know why. Maybe it's not just here, maybe it's everywhere, but in general I just feel like lately it's like everybody's so afraid that somebody's getting more than them.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, they just want to like, take it like just because they're getting maternity leave doesn't mean you're missing out on something. You want to have a baby.
Speaker 2:I don't have a baby. I've had. You know what I mean. This is the I won't get to. This is the last, or I have this. There was an older female nurse I worked with. This is before I had. This was a few years ago, before I even knew I was pregnant with Toby, one of the male nurses we get on his Paternity leave because they get it too, and she lost it. She was like mentioned, not about like this very like boomer attitude. Like he should be at work, working, he doesn't need to be at home. And I said I feel she was in role. He did. People were fighting with her. I was like I was so much your husband's a part of like there's nothing you can say to her. I go, this is all like she didn't get this and so she doesn't want anyone else.
Speaker 2:And I was like so there is nothing you can say to this older, set in her ways woman which makes no sense, that she wouldn't want a kid to have her father, that whatever. But I was just like that's what I heard. That's like people get really caught up when like people having more than them and I'm just like that's insane.
Speaker 1:It's so sad. It is really sad, like why wouldn't you, after this is such a like a Traumatic time, this woman? You're dramatically forcing a human out of your body. You know what I mean. And then you have to take care of this crying Awful thing. You know it's beautiful, but you know what I mean awful. And then some people have postpartum depression. You know what I mean, which is it's hard to connect with your baby and you need support, especially if you do have a partner.
Speaker 1:We need your partner to support you you know, like Wouldn't you want your partner to be there if they're able to be like? Sometimes they can't write financially. So, like, like you said, help other people. That you can't support them, oh my gosh. Anyway, this is not what this podcast is.
Speaker 2:We're gonna 13, like 13 minutes into this.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have a good segue actually because my first wreck is a kid fic, a Dramani kid fic almost see, it's your, it's segue it kind of did transition. Yes, this is one of my favorite fix about, obviously, draco and Hermione and Hermione it's called Orillian, which is the name of the little baby. Oh, really in a, really in I can't even say it.
Speaker 2:Call it too many hours, there's just one or two. It's right in the middle. Yeah, it's for Ashley's like the horrors. Little speech impediment, rarity's head from elementary school days the trauma, the trauma.
Speaker 1:It's called a really, and they call him Ori. I think I love the name ory. It's by bitty blue eyes and and it's a hefty fic. We might, maybe we can, make this one of our things. It's for 43 chapters and 255,000 words. It's thick, yeah and Okay.
Speaker 1:The summary is two years after the war, a young stranger pays a visit to the borough. His arrival alone is baffling, but the news he brings of an upcoming war Turns the world upside down. Hermione's quiet post-war life will never be the same. So Kind of give us synopsis.
Speaker 1:Essentially, ori, he's like this five-year-old little boy, and I mean he's clearly Hermione and Draco's little son.
Speaker 1:He looks exactly like them and he's from the future and he has like a little time turner and and Hermione finds him and he's like mom and she's like who the fuck are you?
Speaker 1:But he?
Speaker 1:Because he's only five, you can't like talk a whole lot, but he essentially is like stuff's coming and and as much as he can.
Speaker 1:And then she's like I believe she works in the Department of Mysteries and so she kind of is like putting all this together, like she has this, he has this time turner and blah, blah, blah and and and then I can't remember how Draco comes into it, like if he's kind of on the good side now, like working with the order and stuff, but when he, when Draco comes around, like whatever, feeding them information from the, the death eaters he sees Draco and like recognizes him and is like dad and Hermione's like what the fuck you wrong? Yeah, so again they're like putting together the mystery of how like Ori came to be and like how far he came from the future. And and again like the summary said, like it's bad times are coming Oops, bad times are coming In this war from the future, and so they have to like fight this war that they don't even know it's like coming, and of course, that means Hermione and Hermione and Draco have to team up and now they have to raise a kid together and it's really good.
Speaker 2:I like a time-turner, thick I yeah, it sounds interesting. I'll read a lot of fix where, like someone's pregnant or there's a kid, so that's very I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's good because it's it's like not like cliche, where she gets like knocked up. So yeah, that's mine. I have another one too, but we can, you guys can say one if you have one.
Speaker 2:You got one. You want me to go, so I don't remember if I talked about this. I might have talked about this last time I'm talking about again. It's what I'm listening to. I'm listening to remain nameless by hey Jude, 19, and it's. It got to a steamy part. I was listening up on the way over here and I was like, oh, I need to. What's it else on?
Speaker 1:what's it set like? Is it like a? Are they in Hogwarts or the after on their older?
Speaker 2:It's nice they're like in their 30s right, they're in their 30s. It's post-war. Hermione works in the department or the works at the Ministry for the Department of Magical Creatures, and Draco is like a quidditch Scout and they meet up and they they find out that they both go to the same muggle cafe every single day and they're both struggling with Trauma from the war and stuff. It's really fluffy and it's really cute. At first it's more like friends to lovers, not enemies to lovers, which is like a nice change of pace for me, because I'm doing a lot of enemies to lovers for some reason.
Speaker 2:For some reason we don't know why I don't know why it's not like it's my favorite, but it's definitely a slow burn because I think I'm on like chapter 17 or something. They just they. Finally I got. I got there finally. It is one of the most I was sweating in my car. It is one of the most beautiful fix ever and also one of the best fix that does mental health, reputant rep Representation, like PTSD and stuff. It is okay, yeah, cuz. Something that I do love about this I've never read it any other thick is that Hermione struggles with her parents. Her parents have their memory back, but they don't trust her anymore because there's like this weird thing because she took all of their memories away, even though she tries to explain why. So then now her parents have this really not great relationship with like magic and it's her really struggling how to fix that, which makes sense, if you really about it, yeah it's so good.
Speaker 2:No wonder Trish like loves it. She talked about that before, like hey Jude 19. Yeah, it's what we like to call in the fanfic world a Trimone classic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's one of the classics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna say I've heard, I love it. The routing is great, mm-hmm, trish is great narrating it. How you got to name the French parcet? Not really. There's a part. There's a part where there's like a lot of French. We're great, go speaks French. And when you listen to Trish and you, the French it is, I mean there's no little French like Sprinkled in there so far. Yeah, it's a friend, friends to lovers. I think you'd like it. Yeah yeah, it's good, it's good, it's good, I gotta read it.
Speaker 2:Guys, don't be obsessed with me. I don't have any rags. Wait what? I'm so sorry. You've read every. You can't think of one Dramani effect that you would wreck. You've read everything under the sun. Oh, we're not wrecking what we read this week.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, we're just sorry. Oh well, I guess we should have not?
Speaker 2:I guess we should even tell the listeners why we're wrecking.
Speaker 1:Dramani. Yeah, sorry, since we fractured everybody here. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're like it's early, we haven't finished our coffee, so you wanna tell them what's going on. Everybody's like what the F is going on in the comments. So this episode is all the things Drago and Hermione. So we are gonna be going back and forth and just saying, like our favorite Drago Hermione fanfics right now because this month is a special month Happy holidays. We are covering Cynlyn used manacold and we'll be doing it in three parts, so the episode after this will be part one. I'm getting mentally prepared for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mentally prepared.
Speaker 2:So this will be a nice light fluffy our favorite Drago's and everything. And if nobody's read that fake. She's being sarcastic because it's not light. First of all, everyone's read that fake. Well, this episode of light and fluffy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this is it.
Speaker 2:Then we're getting dark.
Speaker 1:Dark and twisty. Dark and twisty.
Speaker 2:Before we get too far into the Dramani stuff, I have a very important announcement I would like to make. I finally finished the book the Invisible Life of Adi LaRue. Oh wow, two years later. Okay, but listen, because we got so. We were reading so much there for a while and then I was listening to too many audiobooks and she got pushed to the back and let me tell you, I stayed up until 2 am finishing it last night. It's amazing. I love the ending of it. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:I love the ending of it. I mean, I've heard great things about it. I'll probably read it next year.
Speaker 2:It's so good it doesn't have like your classical happy ending You're necessarily thinking of. I think it's better. Yeah, I won't ruin anything, since Chanel wants to read it. No spoilers, but yeah no spoilers, they actually bought me this like special edition that's signed by the author and illustrated, and you know, some illustrations in it are of Adele, doesn't it? Who does all the illustrations for Manical? That's why I bought that for you, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Well, I love it even more now, and so this is just a side tangent thing. But I've decided they show artwork, like in each part in the book you'll see what I mean and they describe it as and like where it's from or whatever. Well, I have that copy too. I can bring it to you if you want to borrow it. I'm going to get all of that printed out and framed. It's beautiful, oh, wow.
Speaker 2:It's very gorgeous. I didn't know that you so, as people know the artist who did all the illustrations throughout Manical. It's just brilliant anyway, but they have in that in this special edition, adele Rubug several beautiful. All that's beautiful. The main one that I love that was the background of my computer forever, where you can see the watch and the constellation and the blackness behind her. That's a Vidal who did that. Yeah, I do think you'd like it. It's got a very Greek mythology feel to it yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:I can have the Barnes and Noble special edition where it's kind of like it's felt on the top.
Speaker 2:It's really cool. It's kind of like Feeder to the Beast, but not horror and not gory, but similar vibes Okay. I just love the writing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that author is. I have her other series which it kind of seems like a dark kind of like I'm blanking out on what it's called like a darker shade of magic. It's her other series, ve Schwab. Oh I have the first one in that. Yeah, I haven't started it.
Speaker 2:I want to borrow somebody's copy of Feeder to the Beast, though. Whoever has it. I got someone at work reading that now, really, but yeah, I just wanted to announce to everybody because I'd been reading that book. I felt like for years, yeah, that was your wreck, like a year ago.
Speaker 1:A year ago.
Speaker 2:We were reading so much, something had to take a back burner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, it's funny.
Speaker 2:But then I was like I can't believe I waited this long to finish it. Finish it, yeah. So once you get to a certain part of it, you can't stop when stuff starts coming together.
Speaker 1:you can't stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the pieces one way or the other. Oh my gosh, okay, so. So back to Dramining. Okay, so we can just go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and pick a classic that we haven't read or talked about. Oh, that we haven't read.
Speaker 2:That's hard because I love them so much. What?
Speaker 1:about that Love. Another historical add. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna add. I was like we haven't. You said that's a top one for you.
Speaker 2:I love that one, yeah.
Speaker 1:Isn't that the one that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the one that's specific, Rembrod, who did Address with Pockets. Address with Pockets, although Dani who was on the podcast.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you guys saw, that's what I was gonna ask you, dani.
Speaker 2:She got her tattoo finished and it is one of the most gorgeous pieces tattoo pieces I've seen. Whoever did it.
Speaker 1:It's from that book. Right, it's from that book. I feel like I would love that thick. It's just I'm prejudiced all the way around. She described it.
Speaker 2:It sounds like it was yeah, it's just like I love, right, and it reminds me a lot of the more refined and more deal of being in love too. It's that like quick banter, beautiful writing. It's not overtly over the top like sensual by any means. I mean there's stuff, I mean it's in the book, but I just mean like it's definitely has that classical, beautiful like feel to it when you read it, which there's nothing better than a 2007 Pride and Prejudice vibe. So 2005. 2005, whatever 2005. Right, I bet I've watched that movie over a hundred times.
Speaker 1:It's just, it's classic. And guess what? We're going to Storehead.
Speaker 2:Don't tell her that. I didn't tell her that yet. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go home. Oh my God, we're taking your picture.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be. We're gonna take me and Ashley taking a selfie and then we'll have your little popsicle stick head right there.
Speaker 2:We're really sure to do that in our life, and I won't even be able to see my feet. So it's fine. It's good because you're-. We'll bring, I'll do something back.
Speaker 1:Your popsicle head won't have feet either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'll just be a head.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you're funny. Well, actually. Okay, so I have one more rack, but also we've had a couple of I'm gonna shout out some fans that have messaged us, and one of them gave us a wreck for the fallout.
Speaker 2:Oh, you guys haven't read the fallout. No, Okay, it is like the fallout it makes me think of, like the fool, the ember and the hangman parade of the sun. These are all like classic, classic, classic. I don't know what you're talking about right now.
Speaker 2:These are like the classics before the classic sorry Germanes. The fallout is beautiful. That's actually one of Nora's favorite fics. It's one of the first. Really Nora yeah, she loves the fallout and the fallout's by every Thursday. Who doesn't write anymore? So none of the fics are necessarily on AO3. I have them saved so I can read them. She wrote a or they. They wrote a ton of just like amazing. I think it's like late 90s, early 2000s fics. But the fallout is beautiful. It's all about Hermione and the order and a safe house and Draco and Pansy end up working for the order and they show up there. It's a slow burn but it's just like. I love a good slow burn.
Speaker 1:I think I've started reading it. Let me shout out to this fan who messaged us and wrecked it and said I'm surprised you guys haven't talked about the fallout yet. Leaf Nugget on Instagram reached out to us and mentioned it and she was like it's on par with Manicold and isolation.
Speaker 2:Really, no, really, I haven't run isolation yet either.
Speaker 1:That was my next wreck, so I'll talk about isolation. But and then she also was just saying let me see what else. She just wrote like a bunch of oh, she said Deadline by Lena Fora and she just mentioned that, which I haven't looked into that at all, but anyway, the fallout is huge, but she's a huge following, so thank you for reaching out to us.
Speaker 2:We should think about doing the fallout. Yeah, it's like I would agree with her. I think the fallout cause it was before. It's like one of the few fix that was before Manicold, like that was a top tier. I feel like Manicold happened and then it was like this renaissance of all these beautiful fix. I love when the word renaissance is used.
Speaker 1:It's so pretty.
Speaker 2:Where, like the fallout was present, I'm pretty sure in the late nineties, is maybe really early 2000s, I can't remember, but you would. The vibes are like immaculate in that and it's like it has everything. It's funny, it's fucking depressing and sad. There's amazing like sex scenes in it, like it's everything.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, I was gonna say isolation, one of my top tier fix. I've already Stacy already knows.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I pretend it's canon in my head. I think it's Is that good I think it's canon, so what it's?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna read the summary says. Summary says he can't leave her room. It's by isolation by Vex Chan. He said he can't leave her room. He can't leave the room. Her room, it's all the orders fault. Can find you a small space with only the mudblood for company? Something's got to give, maybe his sanity, maybe not quote there she spat. Now your blood's filthy too. And so it's after the half blood prints, draco directly. Draco gets like, ordered to like. As punishment, he's confined into Hermione's head girl room. She's a prefect, yeah, a prefect, yeah. And so it's just her. Like he can't talk to anyone else, he can only talk to her. No one knows who's there. And no one knows who's there, except for, like you know.
Speaker 2:McGonagall or Dumbbell and Snape, obviously, but Snape isn't there. That thing's really amazing because it kind of turned instead of Hermione going off hunting horcruxes with them, they have her stay back in Hogwarts and research, which, if you think about it, makes so much sense. She's like in the restriction section. She's doing all this research on horcruxes, trying to help them from afar, and that's why she's there and she doesn't leave and Draco gets stuck with her because they don't know what to do with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so he is like going out of his mind. I already love it Stuck in this room, I'm already in, but like it's so good because, like you said, I believe it's canon Because he is. It's almost like I love the fact where it's like you know people, like in the muggle world or whatever, where they're like think you know where they're racist or prejudiced and stuff, and you're almost like indoctrined or like believed obviously to think people of you know other races or colors are less than than you. And that's like how obviously he thinks with you know muggle-born and stuff Exactly. And yet by being around her 24, seven, she's like turning it around just slowly, just by living with her and then eventually you know like at one point she like, she like gives him like a book about this is my favorite part, martin.
Speaker 1:Luther King, jumir Cause she's like you know what? And like muggles, she's like they like had segregation from blacks and whites and, and you know, you know, white people think they're better than black people. And he can't.
Speaker 2:He's like that's stupid. Who would ever think that?
Speaker 1:He's like blaze is like the best person. If he's my best friend, like what's literally so.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy how people pick and choose Right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. She just looks at him and she's like, she's like, yeah, but you think your blood is better than my blood, Like you know. And so he like reads this book and and, like I said, that's like the catalyst to slowly for him slowly to start turning and changing. Besides, just like living with her every day and seeing how smart she is and kind she is, and blah, blah, blah and it's, it's just Stop giving me more stuff to read.
Speaker 2:I think that's why it's so beautiful though because you know, I've said it before when we talked about, like Suzanne Collins and stuff, which it's fine, sometimes there needs to be like a dramatic catalyst that like brings this thing on, but it's so slow. It, just like she said, it's like him slowly unraveling, like his everything he's been taught.
Speaker 2:His parents teaching him this like society, all this stuff. But I agree with Chanel. One of the best parts is they're finally like talking. She has all these books, obviously, and she gives him that Martin Luther King Jr bud and she starts telling about segregation. And it's just such a beautiful scene because he's like Muggle. He's literally like Muggles are so stupid. Why would they think skin color matters? And she's just like Muggles are so stupid.
Speaker 2:She's just like looking at him like her and I don't want to ruin anything for you. But then the end, don't ruin it. I'm going to read it. The Bex change just like fixes everything JCrew Rowling could have done at the final battle. So Good, that's why. That's why it's like my favorite.
Speaker 1:Oh was Draco.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not going to tell you Well, because, remember, they filmed scenes with Draco actually being helpful and they didn't put it in the movie. It's just like she goes into deep and Draco Rowling improved that Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like she's like that would have happened and they didn't put it in the freaking movie. I just like it because you can tell she like read the last book and she was like this chapter. This is what I'm going to fix. This is how I'm going to make it Not fix, but like you would enjoy it, it's just like a. It's a very classic, like seventh year redemption arc for Draco Right, the only and also Hermione's, a fucking badass Right. The only thing that doesn't make sense in this whole thing that you guys are talking about is Ron and Harry being off on their own to find these horror cruxes, because I don't believe for a second they would have survived that. Amen.
Speaker 1:There ain't no way they would have survived, the idiot.
Speaker 2:I'm not a rude thing, but they come get her. They don't let her sit idle for a long, they need her. You know what I mean. Like it only goes, and so then she ends up going with them to find more, because they can't do it without theirself. Shockingly. Yes, but I mean that's I got Giddy. I haven't read that book in so long. I know only Giddy thinking about it.
Speaker 1:It's one of my favorites. It's one of my favorites, I mean Draco, mofo and the Mortifying Ordeal of being in Love.
Speaker 2:That's like the other one.
Speaker 1:When I read that, it gave me the vibes of isolation. I was like I haven't read anything that matched isolation, but I just remember reading isolation and I was like what am I reading? What am I reading? The?
Speaker 2:Mortifying Ordeal of being in Love. I couldn't stop reading that book Like. I think I read it in a few days. I loved it so much. And so, speaking of you guys, I was at work yesterday and I'm doing an exchange of binding, an exchange with a friend and I'm really excited because, of course, they want that book Like who doesn't? And so I almost posted on Instagram Maybe I still will and I was trying to find a good quote to put on the back of the cover and I started there's so many good ones. I started rereading Theo's Party Chapter.
Speaker 1:Look how giddy she is right now.
Speaker 2:If I'm ever set first of all everything in Theo's Party Chapter is amazing.
Speaker 1:It's just like top tier. It's perfectly.
Speaker 2:I was reading the scene when they're looking at the hole in the wall.
Speaker 1:Oh my, god, and he put a frame around it.
Speaker 2:You can throw it around it. Andrako was like, I think it speaks of instability, but what?
Speaker 1:does that?
Speaker 2:say under it he named it something, something rage. I just stop reading it. I'm like cackling at work because it's so funny. Andrako is like I think I like it and Theo's like, oh yeah. Andrako's just like so pissed he's simmering. And then you read the scene with the champagne and they smell different things. And then I read the scene with Beauty and the Beast in the Ballroom and it's just like that chapter. I'm smiling right now. I'm so tired. I'm like the chapter is just so well written.
Speaker 1:What about?
Speaker 2:That's just something I think of because you're on the champagne just really fast, because it's for some reason, one of my favorite things. I'm not booking it so little when he tries to get the gardener to ask out her mining because of what her potion used to smell like Her long clippings. Yeah, I don't know why. I think that's so funny Because it's top tier.
Speaker 1:Drago, I know, like he said, that gardener is like what the fuck am I being dragged into?
Speaker 2:But he's like, yeah, I'll date her. Yeah, why not? Oh my gosh. But then of course, I read the very last, whatever paragraph when he's talking. And then I almost started crying at work and it's like she's everything. She's like midnight rides under the stars and all this. And then it's towards the end. She's like midnight rain. Sorry, sorry, sunshine yellow.
Speaker 1:Sorry, that just popped into my head. What was it? Sunshine, yellow?
Speaker 2:No, no, it's sleep Sunshine, mellow Daisy. People are killing us right now. They're like get it turned this stupid fat yeah rello or yes rello is definitely. Rello is definitely a stupid fat rat. Rello. It's definitely the end of the cantation.
Speaker 1:He was a midnight rain. Oh my god, would you say. That's all I could think of. You're like she.
Speaker 2:Midnight rain. That's better anyway, but anyway it's just like beautiful.
Speaker 1:It's funny and beautiful, but I think one of my favorites in the whole thing is the Framing that punch in the wall that that's a good one, but the other one and this is what I was thinking of, this because I Don't know We've been doing a ton, me and Ashley, on books to Graham. These like fanfic, like Like get to know yourself.
Speaker 2:I love them, though. I love getting. I love seeing what people post about themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where it's like like the star signs, your favorite fix, like all this stuff.
Speaker 2:I'd make Chanel help me with that one. Yeah, what's my rising? What's my right? Well, we have the same one. What is? It no ours is different a little bit. Oh yeah, by the time there were times are different.
Speaker 1:Oh, your time's different. Yeah, you're absolutely dull your twins.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:But. But so you had to know. For one of them it was what is your patronus right, and so I like to have a double check with my patronuses. It's an otter, bt dubs anyway, but I see what yours.
Speaker 2:We have an otter, oh, mine was a rat when I took the test online, or not? A rat, a bunny, I'm sorry, bunny. I would say a rat. I was thinking of that stupid rat, about the yellow rat. It's a wild rabbit, mine is a fox, oh nice. So foxes eat rabbits.
Speaker 1:I'll protect you. I just think I fact is a cool, that's a sexy fact, oh that's me. But I was when I went to go double check what mine was. It had like this thing on the Wizarding World Like the most popular Patronuses and stuff, and it said like in the top 10 was a bourgeois, draco's his dog, and Made me think of Draco Malafoy the mortified, and I loved the scene when he was the dog and she's telling, she's telling the guy that he has digested.
Speaker 2:I saw a sweatshirt speaking of that I want to get you. Says that my tummy hurts. Oh my God, it's all. Says my tummy hurts.
Speaker 1:I would do if I get one that says my tummy hurts and it's that dog, oh my god, I would die. I would die, um, but yeah, I just I did. All I kept thinking of was that scene and him just like floundering around like my tummy hurts. Is that poor swan dog? Oh my god. Oh, it's so funny. But I was like, how was that? The most popular Petronuses you know to mean? I'm like it's everyone's, this French dog.
Speaker 2:I'm beautiful French fancy dog Was Nora's. She took it, our friend Nora, and she wasn't happy. She was like some kind of mongrel dog. Yeah something.
Speaker 1:I might have been up there too, obviously like a stag and like, yeah, those are super popular, but surprisingly an otter wasn't popular. Because I was thinking to myself, like everyone, everyone's gonna be an otter, like Hermione, but it wasn't that popular. Yeah, okay, a fox was super pop. You were like number four. I'm shocked, yeah.
Speaker 2:With the name, like Ashley. I'm sure they're all named Ashley.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think it's this name dashley, and sexy fox it Uh, but yeah uh. Do you guys have any?
Speaker 2:more. Um well, I think if we are talking about Germanic classics, we have to talk about breath mints and battle scars, because you?
Speaker 1:know it's my favorite.
Speaker 2:I, I, um, it's my like top tier drago's for me I love, even though he's so toxic.
Speaker 1:I love drago.
Speaker 2:I have like a love, not hate, because I love it like I think the writing is great and it's a great story and it's different. It's just um what Like? I just want to punch him sometimes in it. Yeah, he needs it he needs it yeah but I don't like um, Because how do we're not yucking anybody's?
Speaker 1:yeah, don't you have my young. How did Trish say that?
Speaker 2:I am him. Don't yuck my young. I'm not. I'm saying it's great writing, it's just I bet I'm assuming it's might be hard for some people to oh yeah check the trigger warnings for sure but, it's very well written I think he's just one of my favorites, I mean I know I'm not. I just love this story. I feel like it's so. Brutally realistic.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think it like. I mean with, I guess, all of these, like it's like the multiverse, you know, yeah, drago could be this one and this one you know, I mean yeah he could go down any of these. Yeah, he could be believable. He could be, remain nameless and be friend to her mining. He could be A shithead like breath mints and battle scars, and they should ask.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? I know, but when he tells her he'll pick her out of a room of 100 people and breath mints. Right, right I was like that's what she tells him and she would pick him, or yeah, you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean so like yeah, I mean he's writing in his diary about her. You know, like I mean he could go down any, or what I prefer is bring him to his knees when he's please bring him to his knees more mature, and he's like, let me just bring her to a sex club and and we start for wax on each other.
Speaker 2:But I freaking love that fake so much. That's a great one.
Speaker 1:That's.
Speaker 2:That's in my top top five, but it also just holds a special spot because it was our first episode which we will redo in the future at some point hint, hint, hint. Because actually loves to find how tall he is in that big. I forgot all about that. I have to be careful for that. You were so mad.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we spent like at least five, ten minutes talking, yeah, yeah, because remember she had to make the bed longer in the door frame stall and we're like what? Okay, but listen. So I this is kind it's on topic, but it's a little different. I was watching the show on netflix called loving the villa, or Loving the villa. Yeah, it's got the girl from what's her name cat, it's from cat from vampire dairies and it's the guy from umbrella cat, me number one. So listen, okay, it's like a one bed trope movie.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful I know, I was watching it and skyler was like is this a one bed? What's? What's the word? It's like a trope. He's like yes, yes, it is. Anyways, he's sleeping on this bed, and he's too long for it, so I'm like he is really tall Is this like a they make smaller beds and like.
Speaker 1:Europe or something like. Maybe this is actually a thing and I was so bad.
Speaker 2:Don't you, because he's too tall, but this guy's like his calf all the way down was off this bed and he was like at the very top. So I was just like is this normal that's in Europe, yeah so maybe beds are smaller in Europe. Maybe Draco, maybe he is that tall in this thick that they needed to extend the bed and I was gonna say something.
Speaker 2:I know it was gonna be so not appropriate myself. Why is it not appropriate? I was gonna say he's that tall because when you have such a, you gotta be that tall. Oh, my god, as we know from that big. Anyways. I was like oh, maybe she didn't really have to extend the bed anyways, I love our chaotic Draco Hermione right.
Speaker 2:It's just like my favorite. Oh, I know I feel like it's hard for us to. We really try to change it up and do other couples, but we really get. How can we not talk about the auction? Draco and Hermione? Oh my guess yeah, loves Bidka, I know I.
Speaker 1:I mean I like him in the right thing to do.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I love the whole, that whole trilogy, all the books. The right thing to do is, I mean the auction I loved. It's so beautiful. It was just I'm telling you that canon scene. It still is in my life.
Speaker 1:You know we're going to. You know we're going to the one o'clock gun in Edinburgh. Right, we are. Yeah, we're going to the one o'clock.
Speaker 2:I just don't look at Stacy is rolling her eyes so hard, right now, when I tell you that scene sits in my soul Still, like it breaks my heart, like so that's how you know the auction is such a great book because it stays.
Speaker 1:Dying I'm so sorry. She's listen, can I just?
Speaker 2:say this to like when we were meeting with this travel agent.
Speaker 1:Yesterday she was talking about.
Speaker 2:Edinburgh and she was talking about the vibes it gives and like this goes like medieval and like. I almost wanted to cry because I'm like it's like Katie and Stacy's dream place.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. We'll take tons of videos and pictures.
Speaker 2:I want to see that. That's great. I can't wait. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:It's hard. You'll just be sitting at home with your little eight fat ankles up on the couch. I'll be at work up until nine months.
Speaker 2:I worked until the week I gave birth with Toby. We work. You'll be at work with your fat ankles up on a chair, Don't worry. You know I shame anyone who asked me for anything when I'm at work and I live that way.
Speaker 1:Stacy, we will. It's an art form, even the patients.
Speaker 2:Yes, how dare you? I did.
Speaker 1:How dare you ask me for something when you're having a heart attack, sir?
Speaker 2:I'm carrying a child Stacy. We will go back in a couple years and you'll be able to go and you can leave the kids with somebody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we'll like tell you where to go, because we'll have already gone.
Speaker 2:And then we'll love it because we'll get to show her everything that she hasn't got to see, and we'll be so excited to show you.
Speaker 1:Yes, amazing, yes, sounds great Doesn't make you happy. Does that help?
Speaker 2:I'm elated. She hates it so much.
Speaker 1:She hates it so much. It's New York, but worse. Um, sorry not to cut you off, we went off, but I'm just telling you that we're going to that anyway. But no, I was just.
Speaker 2:I was just saying like I loved the whole one. I love that whole universe, because I like love address with pockets too. I would yeah, I would literally read anything from that universe because I love it all so much. But the right thing to do is just still my well just with pockets is in that universe.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, what am I thinking? Oh wait, no, yes, it is. Yes, it is just different. Author, you're right, you're so right. I apologize.
Speaker 2:It's address with pockets. When I tell you, I just will randomly listed that real quick on an audio because it's so fast, it's so quick, just randomly listen to it Just when she's driving, not do anything else. If people could hear the stuff that plays in my car. It's like have you seen the tick tocks where? It's like when you, when you're listening to a smut, and someone asks what you're listening to it like a holiday dinner.
Speaker 2:I said I said you that tick-fair role, like In his car, like from the from the campaign every time I'm listening to something like that. I always have a book in the back of my mind that I will tell people I'm listening to if they ask.
Speaker 2:Not me, I always always I have a book, like usually it's um, it's like it'll be the last book that I read, even though I read it forever ago, like. So now, if I'm listening to it, I already know that I would tell people I'm listening to lessons in chemistry. Oh my god not me.
Speaker 1:I hope they ask me like it's.
Speaker 2:I can't lie. I get really nervous, have to like prepare for the lie. Oh my god, that's so funny, so they're not listening to. You know, like drago's thrombie, monster cock stays.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say his members member His rigid member.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I gotta have a book ready for when people ask you.
Speaker 1:That's actually good idea. That's hilarious, oh man.
Speaker 2:Are we missing any of the classics? I?
Speaker 1:think we've hit.
Speaker 2:I think we've briefly mentioned a lot of the best ones. Yeah what about love in the time of the zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 1:That's a great one. I haven't read that.
Speaker 2:I've not read it either, but sassy it's excellent, you should listen to it. Trish obviously does an amazing job with that.
Speaker 2:She reads that one too. I would listen to anything for russian accents. Really good it's, it's excellent. Um, it's interesting because the person who wrote it, like, wrote it, wrote half of it and then like, was gone for like 10 years and then finished it. Um, but it's excellent it's that there is that voldemort creates this like weapon, biological weapon, and ends up causing the zombie apocalypse and it's like it starts out with her mind in the order and they're like in britain it's completely overran and they're trying to come up with a cure and it's the person who helped create the crime. Who helped create it is obviously fucking drink her mouth, why? So they have to go break him out of asca band so that they can force him to help. But it is. It's definitely like a slow burn. It's very um, check, trigger warnings. It's definitely very like graphic. There's a lot of like Gory-ness. It's a zombie apocalypse too. But this the story is really beautiful. It goes in a lot of different directions and you wouldn't necessarily expect, but it's, it's up there, it's great.
Speaker 1:I feel like can you tell the two different?
Speaker 2:Where she took a break.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, mm-hmm, is it like? Personally, I think it's. I mean, I think it's not necessarily bad, but it's, I mean anything that you step away from for any significant amount of time. I feel like when you come back, you're a different person. I just feel like you can tell where the story swings in a different direction and you can tell the. Not that it's necessarily bad by any means. It's like it's yeah, it's a top tier fig. It's beautiful when amazingly written in, just totally different than a lot of stuff out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm just trying to think of anything else. I haven't read that I have saved, though, but it's like one of the ones like, if you can listen to Trisha, to etl echo version, it's great because the the voices she does is great. It's there's there's a lot of russian characters in it. You'll see why and like. I want to talk about one more, okay, okay, I love that. It's saved on my tbr, but this isn't a very long fig, but I'm still obsessed with it. Cat daddy by by Danny. I forgot. I'll just read that right away if I want to feel good and a good laugh. I love the way that it's written, like social media wise and text messages and I need to read it.
Speaker 2:Did you see the fair that launched her line finally.
Speaker 1:Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:I will be buying stuff Um, because I love her. I can't believe you could read cat daddy in five minutes.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's great, all right, oh, it is.
Speaker 2:It's a definitely Chanel and Ashley. I mean, I love it too.
Speaker 1:It's a Stacy but especially if you're a cat. But if you're a cat, person.
Speaker 2:You're a cryptic person. I just love the Instagram stuff on there because it's how I would imagine if Draco and Hermione were like together would look like I'm definitely love it so much. Okay, cat daddy and pansies in it oh. Okay yeah, and Jenny, like I didn't know. I like this and maybe I need to find more or fix like this, but pansy and Jenny are friends in it, hmm, and I like it because they're both so fiery. It's some pansy and Jenny fanfic. It's great.
Speaker 2:I do also love Jenny and the in the fix on me right now remain nameless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like Jenny a lot in this big yeah, yeah, I think that's why I just kind of talking about pansy, that's. I think that's why I like the right thing to do, because I loved pansy and I think and I Mean I love Jenny too. But it's just always really good when the side characters and you know are, you know Theo and blaze they're just well Developed. You know there's good background character.
Speaker 2:So anyway, it's a reminder. It just does something I know Classic.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, yeah, I know. So, yeah, that's why we're obsessed, that's why I love manacled, which is also kind of interesting, and I mean I'm only in the flashback scenes right now. Manacled, you don't get a lot of background characters. There's like hardly any side characters, yeah. So it's very interesting that this is the most popular one out of all. Oh, you just wait. Well, I mean I'm no, I'm yeah, it is very good, but it's just very interesting when I feel like we love the background characters and this is so heavy Dramani.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the back. Like we don't like Ron, we don't really like Harry, no, like I mean Jenny, you know, is fine, I'm, and again I'm in the back, I'm in the flashback, so I don't, I'm not, I'm not close to that's Mia's food. I'm not come running in a second. I'm not close to the end yet or I'm about halfway through. So it's just very interesting that, like a lot of the other fix, like you know, they're, I think, do and and even Like bring them to his knees and stuff like that, like there's a full cast, yeah, and so it's just interesting that it's like this is the one that's. This is like one minute, oh yeah, which I understand. It's a really good, like it's really good.
Speaker 2:I think the story and the further you get into it, the more Other characters I think right like yeah, they come come in, yeah, I mean it's still always so Hermione and Draco heavy and but yeah, you'll get a little more. Yeah, a bit. Yeah, it's really hard to like Ron and even Harry in this and not that.
Speaker 2:Not, and we'll get into this with me. I'm not today getting into it too much, but I do like this side that they're showing a period in this that sometimes only wanting to do the quote-unquote Right thing, good thing, mm-hmm, isn't the right thing to do. Mm-hmm and like you're really hurting people and I like that too. Yeah, not to it's because I think the writers, and let you does a good job of like saying being too far, like about one belief. Yeah, so far, one way is such a issue and any and any situation.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, which is kind of I guess we can like swing back to Jermaine. It's like that's, I guess why we kind of like a morally gray man like you know.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's, I gotta tell you this. I was, I had lunch with Cole and we were talking about Because he'd listened to a couple of the podcast episodes, and somehow we got to talking about who plays the Witcher. What's his name? Oh, harry, kaval, henry, what I say, harry.
Speaker 1:You like, you like, I know him so well, I call him. I call him Harry. Well, that's what I was like.
Speaker 2:I Was like yeah, he doesn't really do it for me. He's like yeah, but like on the podcast you said that like yeah, but if you saw him and he like offered you know you'd have sex with him. I was like well, yeah, cool you.
Speaker 1:You said that I guess I did.
Speaker 2:I don't remember, but I guess I did, and then we were talking about we were talking about other.
Speaker 1:My god Stacy make a little more noise.
Speaker 2:Don't shame her, she got too excited about her. But then we so I was like it's not really like my type of guy. And then we're trying something else. And then he was talking about Loki and like season two. I was like that's my type of guy. I was thinking morally gray, dark hair, that's my kind of guy. Yeah, I love a morally great character.
Speaker 1:Just Loki, or do you actually like Tom Hiddleston? Tom Hiddleston.
Speaker 2:Okay, I mean, I like Loki a lot. I like him even more. I wasn't a huge Loki fan until Rag is a Ragnarok's.
Speaker 1:I say Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I fell in love with him, that because of him and Thor's relationship, and then the show Loki, I've just I love this character even more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Morally great, I know, because I'm like and I mean, and I don't want to be like, I don't want to be like a typical girl, that's like I can fix him, but like but I can fix them. No, no, no, I just like. I just like the idea that I feel like it's more Like, relatable. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like and trust me, I love Captain America, you know, but like I don't think that's, that's like human. Yeah, you're not Perfect, perfect, no one's perfect like that. And I mean, and as you see, the movies go on, obviously, you see Steve Rogers, you know, become more human and he turns kind of a little bit darker and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So I feel like that's more relatable, but like, no one is always good, always perfect a hundred percent of the time. You know, you know what they are. They're like Loki, they're like I want some revenge. I lie sometimes, I don't, do you know? I'm jealous of my brother sometimes and I'm, you know that's relatable, you know what I mean. And and then there's times when they're like, hey, I f'd up. They're like, hey, I f'd up. And you know I'm sorry and I'm gonna do better now and I'm gonna try and then Maybe I don't do better and he had any means, so it's. I just feel like that's more relatable to be kind of on the fence and yes, I see.
Speaker 2:Why do you like morally great character? I just think it's a good response, you know. I think I like the morally great character because, like, once one has their dimension art, like it when there's, I think there's the thing of like a lot of growth, like personal growth with a person, and also I think that little bit of like great makes them dangerous, which is hot, you're like they can grow, but they're hot, they can grow, but they know how to like, you know Tap into that darkness a little bit, and I like it.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm a little meanness is okay, yeah, but uh, just a little sprinkled in there. I think the morally great character also, especially like for me, is like a female reader Loves the idea that, like some, can be morally great and that you're part of the reason that they want to be better. Mm-hmm, we love that. I mean, I love that about. That's a rife that happens a lot in Germany, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:What do you like a morally great character?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, I want somebody to burn the world down. For me, a hero will. Wait yeah, what's up?
Speaker 1:I view there's.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you guys have ever read the clean by Olivia Blake, who did a bunch of fanfiction she's published now Mm-hmm. She's. A lot of great books, but one of them her clean and mark series there's a. There's a line which Hermione's talking to Harry and she's like you know, I know that you would like save the world for me or whatever she's like, but Draco would burn it down. It's like that's why. That's why I'm, but during the line. It's something to that it's didn't.
Speaker 1:I'll look it up, but yes, I mean that sounds that's, that's more along Stacy's lines of hot me literally, literally, literally, literally hot. But um, but yeah, I mean Draco fits that bill Pretty well.
Speaker 2:Do we want to Say like our favorite Draco of all time, like favorite Draco in a story, to like wrap things up, I'm thinking I'm like, hmm, do you know yours already, cuz maybe you should go first. While I'm thinking then, yeah, yeah, I can go first. I think when I you know there's a, I feel like there's like a top five in my head of like the Draco's I love. But I think my favorite Draco like one that I would want you know to personally be probably my partner would have to be the mortifying or deal Draco, because he has that dangerous side.
Speaker 2:That's not what you're gonna say I know, you thought I was gonna say some a little bit darker, I think yeah. I Do love. I do love breath and some battle scars, draco, I don't think my personality could actually handle how intense. No you'd be crying the whole time in a corner. I would be crying. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:Honestly. Okay, this is what I think. I think I Think you in real life would choose breath mints and battles, for a Draco Couldn't handle it. But I don't think I think you. I think it would be toxic, but I think what you need is the mortifying or deal.
Speaker 2:Gross Early 20s Stacy would pick, yeah, the breath and spouse Garstrich okay. But mature 30 plus Stacy who wants the stability and the fun and the little bit of dangerous like weekend trips is definitely picking, mortifying or deal, I think what you need yeah.
Speaker 1:Like sorry, go ahead. Why would you? Why would you pick it?
Speaker 2:I just love that Draco because he's also a dangerous side, because he's very confident or he's like dangerous in the sense that like he's really good taking out bad guys, you know. But he's hilarious and he's an idiot. It's like the perfect and he's hot. It's like the perfect, he's oh yeah, he's always. But he's like romantic, like when you hear his inner thoughts about how he thinks about her money in that book. It's just like something I would always want. I mean he thinks that the the sun rises and ends in her Mm-hmm who wouldn't want that, but he's always in his head.
Speaker 1:Mine is bring him to his knees because he's like more mature, obviously he's like. He's like my age, not your, shut up.
Speaker 2:I wish you could see my face right now. Do you know that we're 34, not 30? That's in my face. This whole episode of me is talking about Europe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, very flat. I like you just like age yourself by like a year. You've been telling everyone. But he's like closer to my age and so I feel like you know, like obviously I just mean like he's not like you know, eighth year coming right off of you know cannon, he's an or so he's like got some stability. You know I don't like that he smokes. You know he's always snapping his fingers. I like that he smokes and I mean you know it makes him look hot, so but I just feel like he's got emotional maturity to to deal with the things he's gone through in his past, you know, and Clearly he's, you know, a little dangerous, you know being in an horror and stuff like that. But I feel like clearly he loves Hermione and yeah, he's just like a good, well-rounded Draco, where you know he also is a little sexy with going to a sex club.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's adventurous. I thought you were gonna say the wax play. The first thing when you were talking about was like I love it. Yeah, she likes the wax play.
Speaker 1:No, that was just me being crazy with that one. But I just mean like, yeah, he's just well-rounded, I feel like emotionally intelligent, mature enough to deal with the mental health and everything. I just feel like that is the ultimate Draco to have dealt with his past and moved on. I mean he's like working with Harry. Yeah, I mean they're friends. Yeah, I do like that. So that's the ultimate Draco.
Speaker 2:I love it when Draco and Harry are friends or they're banging Like there's nothing better.
Speaker 1:You're like friends or lovers, yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's my ultimate Draco. My ultimate Draco, I think.
Speaker 1:And he's like super tall apparently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta get in those beds, because I'm good. I don't hate that. Now she's like I'm good. I mean, anyways, it's hard not to pick frame to his knees because he's so tall in it. Oh God, Obviously you can be anything as long as you're tall, but actually my favorite, Draco, is from the right thing to do.
Speaker 1:That's a great one, that's my.
Speaker 2:I just love everything about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And that's my favorite.
Speaker 2:Draco, that's a classic and I love that. I like that he. I think his job's different in that than any of the other fakes. I really like on his own business and like actually trying to, like help, like redeem himself from his family's name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that he's like trying to be like different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's my, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1:Draco, we love a.
Speaker 2:Draco in a suit. Yeah yeah, he's in a suit all the time and I like the office like romance, I like the playboy attitude he has, like dating all those women you know. Quotations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like I know, yeah, but then he has, you know, bringing him blaze. You know he's got a buddy.
Speaker 2:I love it so much and he like cures or helps cures Hermione's parents memory loss.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love that Draco. Yeah, yeah, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's great, if only it was that Draco?
Speaker 1:but as tall as I mean, bring him to Disney and as funny as the mortifying ordeal. Okay, I feel like for me, draco is always like six foot at least. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:At least six two, isn't he six three?
Speaker 1:Jesus, that's tall. I don't know. I always think he's at least six, at least six two.
Speaker 2:It's because I'm married to a shorter man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know my dad's six two and that's like oh.
Speaker 2:I can see Draco being six, two then. Yeah, your dad's a good height.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then basketball players though. He's a basketball player. That's short for a basketball player though, so I don't know. But six foot is tall for an average guy. You know what I mean, draco. You know what I mean. He's not an average. That is not an average man.
Speaker 2:They're in chant and door ways.
Speaker 1:He's not an average man. He's not an average about that man.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited about Manacled now.
Speaker 1:We can't wait for it. I'm in my.
Speaker 2:Draco feels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I started. I had to take a break, so I took a break after you have to. I took a break after the first part, yeah, and then I got into the flashbacks and then I took a break again because I started reading Dorcas. That Dorcas and Marlene Marlene Vic, which I am obsessed with, I need to. It's so freaking good. If you want to get into a Marauders, that's a good one it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, I haven't finished it, I've only read some of it, but yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like it's spicy anyway. And now I'm obviously back into Manacled and I forgot how good it was. So yeah, guys.
Speaker 2:I hope you guys are ready for so. Part one next week will be it's like the chapter 22,. I think 21.
Speaker 1:Maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have a surprise guest. We're excited, be excited, be excited.
Speaker 1:It's it, we're doing just the beginning. Yeah, we'll be doing the beginning, then we'll do the flashbacks and then we'll do the ending.
Speaker 2:We're just keeping it pretty much on standard with how it's wrote. Get emotionally prepared yeah, we will be getting all the trigger. Warnings before.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you guys have any things you want us to talk about or any input feel, free to hit up our social medias. We would love to hear your thoughts about Manacled Questions or anything you have to say about it. How much you love it? Yay, should we wrap up with some kudos? Yeah, yay, all right. My kudos this week is Ashley, bring me coffee to work yesterday, save my life. And then, of course, seeing you to A-Chanel. Yeah, always loving each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean always, always, love. Seeing you guys makes my day, makes me so happy. And yeah, it was just. It was good, good weekend. I got to see Ashley twice. We got to Never happens. Yeah, I could get coffee yesterday and plan our trip, so I'm excited.
Speaker 2:I am excited for your eyes. This trip is going to be great. Yeah, we'll keep you updated. Yeah, so love you guys. Yeah, my kudos and through you guys, and because you guys, my faves. And then my niece, annie. She's with the weekend with me. She's so sweet. Well, most of the time she's amazing. She's a teenager.
Speaker 1:She's 14. I was just a 14 year old girl Like yeah.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of how rough being a teenage girl was. Yeah, yeah, but she's sweet, and we've been watching Christmas movies, which is better than the horror movie she always wants to watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a nice change. Love scary movies.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. And sometimes she was my house. She's like do you want to watch the scary movie? Like absolutely not, but that's been nice. She wanted to watch Christmas movies. So, my gosh, and you know it's been nice. So give her some time with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's so cute.
Speaker 2:Okay, guys, have fun reading what you like. Have a good week. See you next time. Bye.
