Fiction Fanatics

Fur Real, We Love Werewolves!

March 05, 2024 Fiction Fanatics Season 1 Episode 117
Fur Real, We Love Werewolves!
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Fiction Fanatics
Fur Real, We Love Werewolves!
Mar 05, 2024 Season 1 Episode 117
Fiction Fanatics

Ever wondered if you're more of a vampire enthusiast or a werewolf warrior at heart? We're stirring the pot of pop culture this week with a playful examination of these nocturnal beings, starting with a throwback to the '80s classic "Teen Wolf." 

Prepare your inner bookworm for a treat as we dive into Ali Hazelwood's "Bride," our tantalizing book of the month. With its promise of vampires, werewolves, and sizzling enemies-to-lovers antics, it's a literary feast you won't want to miss. Our discussion meanders through the moonlit lore of pop culture's most beloved werewolves, from Harry Potter's Remus Lupin to "Teen Wolf's" charming shapeshifters. Hollywood has given us many faces of the supernatural, but none as enduring as these furry heartthrobs, whose legacies we explore amidst tales of personal celebrity run-ins and on-screen portrayals that have us hotly debating their seductive allure.

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Ever wondered if you're more of a vampire enthusiast or a werewolf warrior at heart? We're stirring the pot of pop culture this week with a playful examination of these nocturnal beings, starting with a throwback to the '80s classic "Teen Wolf." 

Prepare your inner bookworm for a treat as we dive into Ali Hazelwood's "Bride," our tantalizing book of the month. With its promise of vampires, werewolves, and sizzling enemies-to-lovers antics, it's a literary feast you won't want to miss. Our discussion meanders through the moonlit lore of pop culture's most beloved werewolves, from Harry Potter's Remus Lupin to "Teen Wolf's" charming shapeshifters. Hollywood has given us many faces of the supernatural, but none as enduring as these furry heartthrobs, whose legacies we explore amidst tales of personal celebrity run-ins and on-screen portrayals that have us hotly debating their seductive allure.

Speaker 1:

It's Michael J Fox.

Speaker 2:

Michael J Fox. Okay, he's in a werewolf movie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah, american werewolf in London, or something. Yeah, yeah, no, it's like all, very sure it's a terrible movie or it. No, I'm not sure. Sure, I'm just making it up as I go.

Speaker 2:

Okay, where will.

Speaker 1:

It's called Teen Wolf. We're just making shit up. I said I was making it up.

Speaker 2:

That he looks. Have you seen him in that movie? Google him in that movie. He looks terrible.

Speaker 1:

No, he doesn't.

Speaker 2:

He does, he's like a werewolf.

Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Chanel. Hi, I'm Stacy.

Speaker 2:

Hey nerds, this is Ashley and this is fiction fanatics.

Speaker 1:

There we go.

Speaker 2:

I'm just such a hermit. I'm such a hermit, you know what I mean. I don't wear makeup anymore.

Speaker 1:

But the lip gloss is cute on it and it has like Tina, oh, team Edward on it and stuff like that and I was like, oh, but it's so true. Like Ashley knows, I used to kind of like doing my makeup and making it crazy, and it's very rare occasion that that happens.

Speaker 2:

Maybe this would get you back into the spirit.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna be at work with like fucking glitter green eyeshadow on and my skin's gonna look translucent with sparkles and ashes me like wow, wow, stacy, really.

Speaker 2:

Patience. You know what? This is the, the highlighter of a killer.

Speaker 1:

This is the highlighter of a killer, Bella. It'll be this old man and he's gonna be like what are you talking about? Who's Bella? So the listeners know Stacy bought the color pop Twilight palette and it's beautiful. Actually, one of the things on there is body glitter and there's photos of people with this glitter just like all over their chest.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's gonna be Stacy in the ER.

Speaker 1:

No, but like Ashley was saying, like, oh, maybe I'll just buy it, like resell it. When the first drop happened and it sold out in like five minutes, it was crazy. I got on like Marcia that resell app just to see people were selling you can buy it For a new everything for ninety, nine dollars. I sell for. So for three hundred and fifty dollars on there. Wow, god, I mean, obviously, who would pay for that? But someone, someone, someone who really wants it, yeah, someone who wants the skin of a killer, of a killer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Well, actually this is a good segue. You can announce Stacy your book of the month. She's frozen again, so excited.

Speaker 1:

So our book of the month. Hold on time out, pause, pause. What you keep freezing we like that you were positional. We thought you were pausing for dramatic effect because your face just was in the same. Yeah, excited, but like we just thought it was a dramatic pause, but you're, you're cutting it out.

Speaker 2:

So Redo the modem or whatever, at your house yeah, you might have you should okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's really bad so while she's doing this, I broke a bracket off my braces like on that with a mint. A mint just popped it off. Why are you eating mints? Don't start, chanel, like I'm already trying to come up with a good excuse. When I see my orthodontist on Monday when he has to fix it, I know, didn't they tell you what kind of food you should be eating with?

Speaker 2:

they're not eating your braces.

Speaker 1:

Well, I can't feel. Like I can't eat anything, chanel, like I can't have a mint, I can't, you know what braces are the new diet you should be?

Speaker 2:

I am, my mouth is cut up.

Speaker 1:

I can't eat anything that I love to eat. Like you should only be eating smoothies and Bananas, your favorite.

Speaker 2:

I'm back.

Speaker 1:

Oh you're back. Okay, well, she's back. Okay, do you want to do a? Take two and go? Yeah, look at the month Okay, so I'm super excited. This month we are doing bride by Ali Hazelwood. It is a amazing vampire wearable. You know, force, marriage, force, proximity, enemies to lovers. I hope there's a one-bed trope in there. I haven't finished it yet. Fingers crossed. I'm sure there's some miscommunications sprinkled in. So Super, super excited. I've seen it all over book talk, all over Instagram people talking about it. They love it. I am cannot not wait to read it. Get it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I started it this morning actually on Spotify, because they have books now or something and I had finished another audio book.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I'll just, I bought the book from like all just starting from the beginning. Like I'll just, I bought the book from like I'll just start it in the car to get a head start on it, first chapter already. Love it, love the female character, love the male character. I can't wait to see what's happening. Like it's just, it's gonna be good. And I've only read the first chapter. I can already tell.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've read it and it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

It was my only five-star read of last month, or I guess we're technically I didn't know that those are only only five-star read.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I Loved it. I know you guys are gonna love it because it's amazing. We love vampires, we love werewolves. We love a marriage of convenience.

Speaker 1:

We love Ally.

Speaker 2:

You would. Yeah, you know, this is all the things and like great banter really which is my favorite.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we know her banter is good from other books, so it's great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it was just such a good Like subgenre that she kind of branched off into like I feel like I've only read Thing I talked about this a couple podcasts ago Just the love hypothesis or you know, I believe I was her first book and I really liked it, obviously. But I feel like a lot of her other books are kind of similar, kind of the scientist smart girl and Misery that's the main character of this book is very similar. She's it's more like data, computer science, you know she's smart, like that, but this is a paranormal romance, so you get more of Vampirism, were, werewolf, shape-shifting, and so it's. You know, it's just this little subgenre that we go into. Instead of so much science ease, like you know in a lab or you know chess or whatever kind of Senior scenery it is, it's more focused on kind of this kind of fantasy Realm setting it up, and I already told you there's a great subplot Going on besides just their romance that I really like as well.

Speaker 1:

So, and she's so sassy, so far the main character. She's like out of the gate, a little sassy, and I love it.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, yeah, we're excited, super excited, so yeah, and that means that we get to talk about some of our favorite Types of characters, our favorite creatures, which is this episode, which is werewolves. You know, those are my favorites, my personal favorite. You love a werewolf.

Speaker 1:

You know, chanel, I was actually when I started this book this morning in the car. I was thinking of you and Stacy, because Chanel, you're such a werewolf person and like I think being sassy or more like vampire people, and I'm just like why is like Chanel more drawn to werewolves and like were more drawn To vampires and I I couldn't like really figure it out. I'm not sure why, but it's just like yeah, I'm just team vampire for some reason.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel like you cuz cuz. When I started reading Twilight. I feel like that was obviously the first time you like I got introduced to vampires and werewolves and and they're always like intertwined right there, always Against each other, working together or whatever. And I mean I was definitely team Edward at first vampires, like they're cool but then I just fell in love with the werewolves and I read a lot of fan fiction.

Speaker 1:

No, not you.

Speaker 2:

Lot of werewolf fan fiction and I, I mean, I liked Jacob and I like, but it was really the quill. You'd like all of them Sam and Leah and Paul and Embry, like just the whole pack and just being like, oh my god, this is so cool, this pack of these guys and girls and seven and all of them just working together and they're shape shifters really, I guess is what they're called. But I don't know. I just loved the idea that it was just this indigenous tribe and I'm also a cancer and so the moon really like obviously plays into like the werewolf mythology and their history, and so then I was like all into that, obviously. Besides, just, I obviously loved remiss as well too. But but I feel like once you, after you, get exposed to either vampires or werewolf, I feel like you definitely pick, yeah, the side. And so was that kind of thing with you where you were just like oh yeah, I was Carlisle or it was Jasper, what?

Speaker 1:

I think we need to go away. Carlisle, oh god, the original werewolf. What up Seth Green?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, okay.

Speaker 1:

So this is before actually didn't say anything, like she didn't watch that show with me in middle school. She is, she watched the show again. What was it, buffy?

Speaker 2:

the vampire slayer.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so before it, let's go with Seth Green FYI anyway.

Speaker 2:

Yes, love him, so let's go. I looked up the best, the 50 best, because we're focusing on werewolves.

Speaker 1:

But we should say that Spike is one of the best vampires, also from Buffy. But go ahead, oz. Better be on that list or I'm going to lose it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so I looked up the best werewolf characters because it's funny because I don't actually, I guess, because this just blew my mind that the best werewolf characters actually were on vampire shows. Like I said always, they're always intertwined. They're so intertwined and so I was just, I was like boggled that they weren't just from their own TV shows. So, anyway, the number one, of course, is my boy, remus. He was ranked number one on this.

Speaker 1:

Well, he is the best, obviously.

Speaker 2:

But this is just on, like Ranker or whatever. The second one is from a movie American werewolf in London. It's David Kessler, which I've never seen. In the movie there's Wolfman Okay, now, I've never seen the show, but Teen Wolf, scott McCall. Have you guys seen Teen Wolf? All the Teen Wolf boys.

Speaker 1:

I have them. The people are obsessed with Teen Wolf Obsessed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Derek Hale. So all the Teen Wolf guys, Scott Skiles or whatever the hell.

Speaker 1:

They are all so attractive on that show I've not seen the show either. Maybe I'll watch it since we're talking about it. But they are all very it's like a prerequisite to be a werewolf on that show. You got to be like, yes, I need to watch it, but yeah so all the guys watch it for the plot.

Speaker 2:

Okay, they're ripping off their shirt and becoming a werewolf. That's why I like werewolves.

Speaker 1:

They just rip their clothes off all the time and I'm like what up?

Speaker 2:

The next one, which technically is a vampire movie underworld, Mike Corvin. He is like a hybrid vampire, werewolf, I guess was ranked. Now this one. I want you guys to win on this. I've never seen the vampire diaries but, Klaus, they said he's like a hybrid vampire. Like what? Werewolf, what?

Speaker 1:

Chanel, you need to watch that show. I hope you don't watch vampire diaries. Well, it also becomes a hybrid later in the show, though.

Speaker 2:

They said like in their originals he is from the beginning. No, they said they like named it. I don't want to ruin the.

Speaker 1:

is Chanel going to watch it? Because I don't want to ruin the plot?

Speaker 2:

Probably not, probably not. Elena annoys the fuck out of me. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

I like her. I like Elena too, her and were like evil twin, like no. I can relate to that. Okay, you can relate. First of all, it's not her evil twin, it's a distant relative and Kat Grammets in that show and it's amazing which. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I love her. That's part of that show.

Speaker 1:

But no, I mean spoilers.

Speaker 2:

Wait, do we just pause? I can relate to that. So who's the evil twin?

Speaker 1:

Well, what do you think, Actually, okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, Absolutely not, Stacy. Literally, you know who do you think it is. You see, you're sitting in the Slytherin common room on your screen right now With Draco Malfoy on your chest.

Speaker 2:

Draco Malfoy on her shirt.

Speaker 1:

You see him.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to see.

Speaker 1:

Look at him. Look at him. No comments no comment. Look she knows a true friend. She knows she knows how to be friends with us. I hugged her. I've been washed in a year. I'm just kidding, I washed it but I wish I wouldn't have now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, the next one up is Oz from Buffy. So you are correct, he makes it. He's like top 10.

Speaker 1:

I have to say a side note real fast before we get off of Oz, and like Seth Green here. It's that Stacy was so obsessed with Seth Green that when we went to Comic Con in San Diego and he was there, she had everybody that was with us follow his Twitter account so we could try to track him down at the locations we were like following him, like these notifications around, trying to find out where. Seth Green was, so Stacy could meet him.

Speaker 2:

Did you find?

Speaker 1:

it. No, we didn't find him.

Speaker 2:

So I've never seen Buffy.

Speaker 1:

Chanel. You should watch Buffy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but isn't it like controversial now because of, because of?

Speaker 1:

Oh, the one guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the producer director guy.

Speaker 1:

I know you're talking about. I can't think of his name now. Yes, but like that shouldn't take away from the actors and actresses, though, that put their time into it. Yes, yes, you're right. Oh, josh Whedon.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, yeah. But but honestly I love Seth Green because of all the other stuff he's done. He's an amazing actor and comedian, so I don't even blame you for that. So I'm so sorry you didn't get to see you.

Speaker 1:

It's okay, I carry the grief with me still 20 years later. But it's fine, I don't even want to hear about it. You met the true blood cast on that trip. Just suck it up about.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're getting we're getting to that. We're getting to that, okay. Next is Jacob Black and Twilight and, clearly, like I mentioned, all the other, all the other people that I've met, and I'm definitely a you know everyone and now true blood. I'm going to totally butcher this guy's name because I've never. I'll see it's all. See, I'll see, okay, which is Joe Manji Well.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to butcher his name to so freaking hot.

Speaker 2:

I was like so See, I don't think he's attractive?

Speaker 1:

Well he's, he's hot in this picture. I'm going to pull it up. Oh wait, okay, oh, but again. Since I never watched true blood, I was like oh, it's just about vampires, not a vampire girl.

Speaker 2:

I'm like there was a werewolf, yeah, of course there was a big, there's a big part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was like reading that. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

So how could you not watch true blood for the?

Speaker 1:

simple fact that Alex scars guards in it the whole time. And how could you not? Should know, I'm so disappointed in you, eric Northman, the best vampire of all time.

Speaker 2:

I'm so, I'm so, so angry about all of this.

Speaker 1:

I cannot get into this again. I'm so mad. That's so funny, just really quick. We went to Comic Con years ago when true blood was like At its peak. At its peak when you went to Comic Con. You went to Comic Con. This was a long time ago, it's when true blood was like in its prime and how it worked. Back then it used to be.

Speaker 1:

When you went you would get in line super early to get To try to get see these panels of big shows. So, like Sisi said, the way it used to work, you have to get up early. You'd wait in line to get wristbands or whatever to meet these panels. The year that we went they changed it that no matter where you were in line, you drew out of a bag or something to see if you got a wristband. So it wasn't guaranteed that if you were the first one in line you were getting tickets to see this panel. I'm so stupid. So we had been in line since like what? Like 5.30 in the morning in Sisi or something like that I think it was like 4 am.

Speaker 1:

It was like ridiculous, like we got up so early, it's so stupid?

Speaker 1:

And then so there were four of us there together and only two of us got tickets. But the thing that's funny about it is that, again, this was like over 10 years ago now, but it was me, stacey, my boyfriend at the time and his brother, which, michelle, you know, patrick. Patrick was there and Stacey and Patrick got tickets. But what sucks is that, like my ex had, like, paid for everything and he didn't get one of the wristbands and I think he thought that somebody was going to give him a wristband and nobody did. He, like you know, he literally said this whole trip up, me and Patrick were just like there for the ride. You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean, we do nothing and we got the tickets to be the true love guest and it was so mad and I was honestly, I was really upset too, like I was really really, really grumpy about it. So Stacey and Patrick are so excited and then I was so angry. Anyways, it's.

Speaker 2:

I mean that is so freaking stupid. Like if you get there early, like think about the person just in line behind you and they didn't get anything. You know what I mean? Like I don't know, it's a stupid. The point of getting there early is to get to get it. It's like standing in line at a concert or at a restaurant or whatever. It's like. Why would you do that?

Speaker 1:

to reward a person who just woke up and she's like but Ashley is not even telling the best part of the story, the very best part, because her trip is redeemed a little bit because oh yeah, you met Stanley. So he, her boyfriend, the guy she was seeing at the time, he gets really mad, like fresh out of the situation he leaves, goes off on his own leaves. Ashley, I had to rightfully sell a little bit Like Whatever. So he's pouting.

Speaker 1:

Whatever, so she's like whatever he's pouting. Patrick is off doing his own thing, like always, and so me and Ashley are just walking around telling me why Ashley randomly stumbles into Stanley, he gives a shake his hand for free and meet him, and then Her boyfriend at the time is like literally the biggest nerd I have ever met in my entire life. And then literally Ashley has to tell him I know you've had the worst day, by the way. I met Stanley and shook his hand and took a photo with him for free and his line was like sold out, you couldn't. You couldn't get his autograph it was.

Speaker 1:

It was, it was like dying yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

Like that's what you get for, like, not being a baby.

Speaker 1:

I was, no, I was being a baby too. I was, I mean, not grumpy with Stacy, but like with the situation. But yeah, how could she ever be grumpy with me, chanel?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 1:

Never, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I guess the question is who is the evil twin now?

Speaker 1:

Stacy, she didn't give me your true blood wristband. It's Stacy.

Speaker 2:

I had to give it up.

Speaker 1:

I had to meet Eric Northman. Ok, I had to meet the sheriff. When I tell you, my heart hurts that you just said that right now and I didn't get to meet him. I want to cry, oh my god, anyways, oh my god, it's because we're vampire, girl, chanel, ok.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean I'm trying to look, there's not really, it's just a whole bunch of other like old movies, basically like Wolf Blood.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, well, it's just I think were wolves are popular but they always go hand in hand with like a more vampire prominent.

Speaker 2:

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I was thinking about a book series that Ashley had me read. Like I'm talking, we were probably like in high school. Out of high school, do you remember that book series Blood and Chocolate?

Speaker 2:

Ashley.

Speaker 1:

I was just thinking that it's so. Really Was it a book series or was it just one book though? Let me look, please Hold, but Ashley got me into it. You know they made a movie off of that book.

Speaker 2:

Mm hmm, and I think it was called the same thing.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that was a good book. It's a young adult book, yeah. I should go back and reread that. Oh my god. Hugh Dancy is in the movie. Will Graham from Hannibal is in the movie. Stacy's watching it tonight. Sign her up, you're crazy. Oh my god, he's the main guy in it. I'm screaming OK, sorry, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

You had no clue.

Speaker 1:

Well, why didn't that werewolf make the list? Then he's on there, obviously.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it wasn't like, maybe because it was like those are like your young adult movies. And have you guys read the Shiver series, shiver Lingr? I've heard of them. Yeah, I read that like when I was a teenager. It was pretty good. It's by Maggie Steve Otter, stifie, steve. Otter, it was pretty good, it's by Maggie Steve Otter and yeah, it's about wolf where wolf guy and, ok, I never got into it, but like the city of bones, mortal instruments, apparently there's wolves in there I have never read.

Speaker 1:

If I've read it, it's been a long time and I don't remember it.

Speaker 2:

I just never got into it, but I really want to Like. There's a ton of books, I know.

Speaker 1:

So you see the book series that Phoebe liked a lot of friend of ours, yeah, she was she really she? Really liked that I'm. Blood and chocolate is a standalone novel. Sorry, just throw that in from where we're talking about. It should have been a series. Mm hmm, it was a. It was a YA book. That's probably why I didn't make a lot of list. I'm sure they tried to make them, I don't. I don't think I've ever seen the movie. I'm sure they try to make a little steamier, but the movie had like a loving person on Ron Tomatoes.

Speaker 1:

So don't hold your breath, but I'm still going to watch it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we know, we know. I mean there's a ton of like romance books, like you know, adult romance books. I'm looking up cry wolf magic bites like I'm just looking bitten, but I'm, I haven't read any of them. But but yeah, the summoning I've heard of that but I haven't read it by Kelly Armstrong.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I've heard of that.

Speaker 2:

But it looks familiar. But I mean there's tons of, there's tons of wolf romance books and actually there's a series. It's again it's like Witches, vampires and wolves and I have it on my shelf over here. Let me see, it's called the Night World. There's like these thick ass three book books I read when I was a teenager and it's just like it, like chronicles, difference People, like one, one book follows like a vampire and then it follows this werewolf, then it follows a witch and then it follows like all these different kind of creatures, and that was a really good series. Yeah, it's called Night World. They're super huge. There's three, three books. But I was like that that was a good werewolf series that I liked. But but yeah, I'm just trying to think of ones I feel that are popular besides, like Twilight.

Speaker 1:

And True Blood.

Speaker 2:

And everyone knows about, and it's obviously like Prisoner of Azkaban. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

But but yeah, I don't know. Like well, I'm excited to read Bride and fall in love werewolf again, because I feel like I truly only seek it out with vampire. Yeah, with vampire. I know there's a vampire too, but I know that he's the main. He's not a side character, obviously, like he's been part of the plot.

Speaker 2:

He's the main one. Yeah, and actually there is. I've read this author, brittany S Lewis. She has written a couple other kind of like horror, gothic books and, like I'm trying to think the undead truth of us is the first book I've read of hers and she is. She just signed a contract and is about to release a book this next year, I believe in the fall called Blood Moon, and it's essentially a paranormal romance with a werewolf and the main man, the main female character, who falls in love with this werewolf, and she's like she describes it as like Twilight, kind of like, let me see, like paranormal romance and but also like more diversity than Bride. She was kind of saying, like you like Bride, you'll like, you'll like her new book, and so I was like, okay, sign me up because I'm obsessed with Bride. But but yeah, so I'm, I'm super excited to read it.

Speaker 2:

Let me see. Want to see what she specifically actually tried. First, in a paranormal fantasy romance, an 18 year old girl is mysteriously accepted into a Midwestern town known for deep legends with werewolves and vampires. She finds herself in an enemies to lovers romance with one and finds herself in the midst of an ancient and magical war. If you liked Bree from Legend Born, if you read New Moon and fell in love with the wolves and those who like paranormal romances, but with more diversity and wit also, vampires wear wolves and hybrids. And, for the love of all things, klaus, you like Blood Moon.

Speaker 1:

I cannot believe you don't know Klaus, because you will not watch Vampire Diaries. Like in Stacey, klaus has blonde hair, right, he's not dark, it's like Sandy blonde.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't call him dark haired.

Speaker 1:

Because I was going to say I think, klaus, and I'm trying to think, if this is going to be wrong, it is besides, like Draco, it is the only like light haired main male character that I like and I'm telling you, yeah, you said, talk about a morally gray character like tea to villain.

Speaker 1:

Morally gray, like redeemable than a dick. Right, you like hate him. You want to. You like want to murder him in the first season. I mean, he's so great, he got his own show, yeah, and it's good. Like the originals is a good show.

Speaker 2:

I know, but I just I can't get past.

Speaker 1:

It's a big commitment. Just watch the originals. I think the originals explain it so you don't probably have to.

Speaker 2:

I mean I'm sure it would some set.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure there's some stuff you'll miss because you haven't seen. Yeah, Okay. Excuse me, but I think it'd be fine, okay.

Speaker 2:

Because I mean I've watched like maybe the first season, first season, maybe into the second maybe, but I just couldn't. She disinvoid me. I like her, I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it, but but yeah, no, I clearly am just a werewolf girl, that's all.

Speaker 1:

I want. I think the isn't the wrong with being a remiss girl, I know. I think it's to me and this isn't necessarily accurate Like when I think werewolf, I think more of like the dirty hot type character. You know what I mean. It's just like not my thing, I don't know. Whereas you think of vampires as like this classy, like I whatever, I don't want to have to touch the riffraff yeah, they're like classy, yeah, and they're usually really tall.

Speaker 2:

I know. So when I think of vampires, though, I think of like Like you say, classy, but I think of like elitist assholes, total dicks, total like like. I just can't identify and connect with someone who's a total racist piece of shit Like-.

Speaker 1:

No, we cannot say vampires are racist, okay, they're all fucking white we can say they're toxic. Eddie Murphy. I just watched last night Eddie Murphy be the only vampire in Brooklyn Chanel. So you bite your tongue.

Speaker 2:

You bite your tongue. It's cause they were like well, we gotta get some diversity.

Speaker 1:

Not only was Eddie Murphy-.

Speaker 2:

Or what about Wesley Snipes? Oh blade. Blade. Yeah, they were like we gotta get diversity. Dude, that was so funny in what we do in the shadows and when he came, what we do in the shadows. That's next episode.

Speaker 1:

That's Stacey's favorite show. Yeah, that's what I hate.

Speaker 2:

It's next episode, next episode.

Speaker 1:

It's cool There's-.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to think what's the girl's name who plays Eddie Murphy's bride in his vampire movie in the 80s? She's amazing. She's from 911 and she's in I have caught. I'm looking at her Hold up the fact that I can't say her name. Theo's obsessed with her. It's gonna drive me crazy that it's not instantly coming to me.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, I can't the bushy right, no crazy.

Speaker 1:

No, hold on.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, oh Senai Lathan.

Speaker 1:

No, no, angela Bassett is in it. Oh, uh-huh, oh she looks. I love, I'm obsessed with her. Yeah, I've never seen this movie. What's the movie called? I don't even know what you're talking about it's Blade.

Speaker 2:

Oh Is that where you're talking about Blade?

Speaker 1:

No, oh, what are you talking about? Murphy's a vampire. What movie are you talking?

Speaker 2:

about. I literally just looked up Blade.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I was like why? In Brooklyn?

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

What was the movie Seiza? I said it was it's called Vampire in Brooklyn with Eddie Murphy. He's a vampire, that's the name of it Vampire what?

Speaker 2:

I've never even heard of this movie. It's the Angela Bassett Mm-hmm. I've never heard of it before.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's a 1995 American Vampire comedy horror film. Okay.

Speaker 2:

And it's a movie.

Speaker 1:

I thought watch this I thought you were gonna say a 1995 classic. I swear to God.

Speaker 2:

I thought I was gonna say it A classic John Witherspen's in it. Holy cow, how did I not know about this? This is, this seems hilarious. He looks, oh my God, his hair.

Speaker 1:

He has a goatee in it show. He has a goatee, I mean, theo watched it last night. He has a goatee in it.

Speaker 2:

This is hilarious this. Why are we talking about this? This is the Werewolf episode.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Seiza's bringing up vampires again, Okay speaking of hilarious movies.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, why am I Werewolf movies? We need to talk about the one that. Who is the dude from, my God? Why am I bleakie out? Who is the dude from?

Speaker 1:

Are you alive, Chanel? She's dying over there, Okay.

Speaker 2:

I know I'm dying. Okay, who is the guy who has Parkinson's? And he was in that time movie Blanchery. Back to the future, you idiot. Back to the future. Who is the kid?

Speaker 1:

We don't need roads.

Speaker 2:

Who is the?

Speaker 1:

kid.

Speaker 2:

Who is that kid? And now he's an old man and he has Parkinson's. What's his name? The actor's name?

Speaker 1:

Now it's left my head, I know.

Speaker 2:

Why am I so terrible? I'm just having to get back to the future. It's Michael J Fox. Michael J Fox okay, he's in a Werewolf movie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so yeah, american Werewolf in London or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah no is that what it's called? Are you sure he's a?

Speaker 2:

terrible movie.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not sure. Sure, I'm just making it up as I go. Werewolf, it's called Teen Wolf. We're just making shit up. I said I was making it up.

Speaker 2:

That he looks. Have you seen him in that movie? Google him in that movie. He looks terrible.

Speaker 1:

No, he doesn't, Let me look.

Speaker 2:

He does.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what werewolves look like, you know.

Speaker 2:

I mean, granted, it's in the 80s, it's in the 80s, but like they just put a wig on his head.

Speaker 1:

They put a wig as a beard. It's still gonna show it. You know, if he doesn't look bad, that's what werewolves look like. Why isn't it gonna show it? We gotta post this, okay.

Speaker 2:

I'm a werewolf girl, but I don't want that werewolf.

Speaker 1:

Look, he's all furry and in a basketball outfit. Why?

Speaker 2:

is he in?

Speaker 1:

a basketball outfit.

Speaker 2:

Jersey. He's a teen, and then he turns into a wolf.

Speaker 1:

Then he plays basketball. Well, he looks hot when he's not in wolf form.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, now he's stuck as a wolf. Honestly, I wouldn't be a wolf girl. I should be so bad.

Speaker 1:

National stat. I'm putting in hot werewolves.

Speaker 2:

I'll be like. I'll be like I'm with the vamps now. That's right, team Edward, I'm with the vamps now and he's got like sunglasses on and like like a little radio.

Speaker 1:

I cannot deal with you right now.

Speaker 2:

It's so bad. He looks so ugly. Oh my God I'm like who thought this was a good movie to make.

Speaker 1:

It was a 1995 classic, chanel, a classic.

Speaker 2:

High school student whose ordinary life changes when he discovers he's a werewolf. I go okay, let's make this movie. No.

Speaker 1:

Chanel, I thought you liked werewolves. Why are you doing this?

Speaker 2:

Not when they look like that, not when they look like that. Oh my God, so funny. Anyway, anyway anyway, anyway, yes, yeah, it's like speaking of hilarious movies, I was looking that up. I was like no way. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't say what our favorite werewolf character is, oh yeah, we can actually know Actually.

Speaker 2:

No, I have questions for you which I feel like I already know, but I sent it in the group chat, Okay, Well, I'm still going to say who my favorite werewolf is, and it's Remus Lupin.

Speaker 1:

So I beat you to it. Okay, that's my favorite one. You stole mine.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I already know what we already said, but which do you think is better? Is werewolf or vampire? Vampire Duh shabo, vampire baby, all right, yeah, obviously I'm going to say Okay, but if you had to be one like, seriously, think about it, just think about it, vampire, vampire.

Speaker 1:

They live forever and in like-? No, they don't.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they do, yes, they do they're immortal. No, okay, read bride, read bride. Every other vampire outside of bride?

Speaker 1:

No. Which universe of vampires are we going off of here?

Speaker 2:

You can talk to Brad Tom and come back to me. With living forever, I feel like they're all different.

Speaker 1:

I'm still saying vampire yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, if you had to marry one.

Speaker 1:

Vampire.

Speaker 2:

Vampire Guys are so stupid. I hope you die. I hope you die. Hey, that is dramatic. I hope you. A werewolf just rips out your throat.

Speaker 1:

A werewolf could never touch this vampire body quick enough, we're too fast. I'm possibly fast.

Speaker 2:

Hey, that's the other thing. Who said a vampire is fast.

Speaker 1:

Stephanie Meyer. Stephanie Meyer, stephanie Meyer, they know it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're going to take it from her. She also said they sparkle. Okay, we're definitely not. She's not the queen of all mythology. They can know, know, know so.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to start making some werewolf jokes. I don't want to get fleas, so I'm not picking the werewolf.

Speaker 2:

Please.

Speaker 1:

Please. I don't want to, and I like eating with a fork and knife. Thank you, unless it's pizza.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh. Even werewolves are sheep shifters, which means they also can turn back into a human, which means they can eat with a fork and knife.

Speaker 1:

You're so like. Sometimes their animal instincts take over. Chanel, you don't know, have you met a werewolf? You don't know, maybe they like eating with their hands. You know, we like what we like. Oh my gosh, my eyes are so dumb, so basic.

Speaker 2:

I said by my answers Because they're wrong. Because they're wrong, and also, how is remiss your favorite? Then you want to be a vampire, like you can start.

Speaker 1:

No good vampires in Harry Potter, chanel, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's fair, so Huh.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to. Who might?

Speaker 2:

I hope Greyback rips your throat out.

Speaker 1:

Greyback is a dirty werewolf. A dirty werewolf, okay.

Speaker 2:

But also, what about like Arrow? What about all the bad vampires? There's a ton of bad vampires Like why are you acting like every vampire is the best?

Speaker 1:

You're going to hate this, but I just rewatched Twilight and literally from my self thinking I probably bang that. You know, hit arrow once Like it'd be weird.

Speaker 2:

But like in a cool way. He's absolutely have you seen his greasy hair? You know which?

Speaker 1:

one. Is that one? The leader? The old guy? No, the leader, oh, with the dark hair, the old guy, the old guy who doesn't move or talk in the back? Actually, that's the one. That's the one I was talking about. Wait, wait, what's the wait? What's the? I can't remember what's the? Sam the? He was the first alpha in Twilight, right, sam? Yeah, that's the werewolf on pickin. That's my favorite.

Speaker 2:

Either pick in Paul or actually all of them. All of them. Jacob, oh Sam, oh yeah, oh my God, michael Sheen, I can't believe you.

Speaker 1:

You can't believe. You can't believe that.

Speaker 2:

Wait, who was the old guy?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, who's the old guy? Now I gotta look at Twilight Old vampires. Well, that's not going to narrow it down.

Speaker 2:

I should pull it up Twilight, old vampire who was that? Who are the old vampires? No, it says Carlisle. Okay, old Vulturi. Here let's see.

Speaker 1:

Look who showed up for the recording while you're looking at Toby Hi, Toby Hi. Is Toby team werewolf or vampire? Toby Toby's team werewolf. He loves werewolves. I know I can already tell he would be a team werewolf.

Speaker 2:

Who's the old guys, Deis?

Speaker 1:

You got to put in Vulturi I did? I don't know I just call him daddy Stacy. Now stop Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Hi, yes, is Jamie Campbell Bauer. Blonde dude, hot blonde dude. You know who we're talking about. You know who we're talking about.

Speaker 1:

She knows all about those hot blonde dudes.

Speaker 2:

You know, from Stranger Things, Deis.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I know, Becna.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, damn, I can't find it.

Speaker 1:

No, she just told you. She just called him daddy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't even know his name. I think you're going to bang the old guy yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm telling you, that's who Stacy meant, the old dude.

Speaker 2:

I think that's who she meant is the old guy oh my God, I'm not surprised. Look up Michael Sheen. I want you to confirm that that's the old guy.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not the old guy, it's the leader of the Vulturi as I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

He's the leader.

Speaker 1:

Arrow is the leader yes, not the old guy in the back, Michael Sheen is. We're off on a tangent, guys.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was supposed to be about werewolves, I know, but Stacy's going to bring up her libido at.

Speaker 1:

Crazy, her libido at Crazy. No shit in my libido Stacy. Get your libido under control.

Speaker 2:

You mentioned vampires and I just went. I'm going to go and get my libido under control what is happening. He said. He said check that libido. He loves werewolves is what he said. Oh my God, we should reign this in, we should.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let's do kudos yeah, let's do kudos. So my kudos this week is for well, it's always for both of you, but it's definitely so. It's definitely for Ashley. She has been just keep telling me how amazing I am. It's fine. My kudos this week is for Ashley. She's been letting me really vent to her call her text her she's really helped me out. I've been very stressed. I know you can't understand why from this recording, why I'm stressed, but yeah right. Don't be staring at you.

Speaker 2:

We could never understand.

Speaker 1:

But also to you, chanel, because I just know I can text you guys and laugh, and so just thanks for being amazing humans and putting up with my craziness.

Speaker 2:

We all love you. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you Honestly. Yeah, I mean first of all for you guys. Definitely kudos to you, because I love you guys make my week, so thank you so much. And even just checking up on me yesterday when I was so tired. So thank you. And also just a shout out to my coworker, Molly. We had like a really big presentation yesterday, which is why I was so tired, so, yeah, and just like I'm surrounded by amazing and great people, so thank you guys.

Speaker 1:

You're the best. I have two kudos. One is for my friend, emily, who says you know who Emily is. We actually have been friends for over 10 years. I don't really get to see her very often because she lives out of state now, but she randomly texted me yesterday and she's been listening to the podcast, which is so amazing because she's the. She's the kind of friend that I don't get to see or speak to very often, but it's like the kind of friend that if we hung out it would be like we haven't not seen each other and forever. It's just, it's really nice, it's that kind of friendship. And she texts me.

Speaker 1:

She had read the first and half of the second book of ACOTAR and so she said that she's kind of been waiting. She's listened to a couple episodes but had been waiting for a book that she knew to listen to the podcast, and she just told me that she loved it and it was just so sweet and so nice to hear from her and she's amazing. So, yeah, just made my whole day to hear from her. It was so sweet that she had been listening to the podcast. Yeah Well, thank you for listening. Yeah, thanks for listening. And then she's also a mom, fyi. So again to all the moms out there, because I don't know how you guys have children Just as Stacy's sitting here with Toby shoving like something in your face. I don't know how anybody gets anything done with children. So all the moms are amazing. But also for you guys, because I know we've been super busy and your big project and Suffchanel and just making time for me and I love you guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's it, team Vampire. Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

Team.

Speaker 1:

Vampire Forever and thanks for listening to. Emily, I Miss you.

Speaker 2:

I think I need to say the outro, because I did such an amazing job last time.

Speaker 1:

She did do a really good job, stacy, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:

I laughed through the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

No, I want you to do it because I didn't get to witness it. I want to hear it live, but also we have to say real fast we do love werewolves. I just have to throw it out. Yes, we do love werewolves, but we love giving Chanel a hard time too, more so, okay, yeah, lead us out, chanel, what do you do at this time?

Speaker 2:

Well, thanks everybody for listening. Werewolves are the best and we want everyone to listen to what they love.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

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