Fiction Fanatics

A Court of Thorns and Roses, Part 1

February 20, 2024 Fiction Fanatics Season 1 Episode 115
A Court of Thorns and Roses, Part 1
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A Court of Thorns and Roses, Part 1
Feb 20, 2024 Season 1 Episode 115
Fiction Fanatics

Ever found yourself drawn into the magnetic world of a fantasy series, only to become embroiled in the lives of its characters like they're old friends? That's exactly what happened to us with Sarah J. Maas's 'A Court of Thorns and Roses' series. As we jump into the fray, we're dishing out a feisty analysis of Feyre's journey and her complex relationships, comparing it to the fervor of Maas's 'Throne of Glass'. From our first impressions swayed by the book's buzz to our evolving perspectives on character likability, we're dissecting what makes these fictional beings tick and how they capture our hearts—or sometimes don't.

Get ready to explore part one of this amazing series Nerds!

Summary:
When nineteen-year-old huntress Feyre kills a wolf in the woods, a terrifying creature arrives to demand retribution. Dragged to a treacherous magical land she knows about only from legends, Feyre discovers that her captor is not truly a beast, but one of the lethal, immortal faeries who once ruled her world.

At least, he’s not a beast all the time.

As she adapts to her new home, her feelings for the faerie, Tamlin, transform from icy hostility into a fiery passion that burns through every lie she’s been told about the beautiful, dangerous world of the Fae. But something is not right in the faerie lands. An ancient, wicked shadow is growing, and Feyre must find a way to stop it, or doom Tamlin—and his world—forever.

From bestselling author Sarah J. Maas comes a seductive, breathtaking book that blends romance, adventure, and faerie lore into an unforgettable read.

*Summary from Goodreads*

***Produced by Jen Hardin***

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Ever found yourself drawn into the magnetic world of a fantasy series, only to become embroiled in the lives of its characters like they're old friends? That's exactly what happened to us with Sarah J. Maas's 'A Court of Thorns and Roses' series. As we jump into the fray, we're dishing out a feisty analysis of Feyre's journey and her complex relationships, comparing it to the fervor of Maas's 'Throne of Glass'. From our first impressions swayed by the book's buzz to our evolving perspectives on character likability, we're dissecting what makes these fictional beings tick and how they capture our hearts—or sometimes don't.

Get ready to explore part one of this amazing series Nerds!

Summary:
When nineteen-year-old huntress Feyre kills a wolf in the woods, a terrifying creature arrives to demand retribution. Dragged to a treacherous magical land she knows about only from legends, Feyre discovers that her captor is not truly a beast, but one of the lethal, immortal faeries who once ruled her world.

At least, he’s not a beast all the time.

As she adapts to her new home, her feelings for the faerie, Tamlin, transform from icy hostility into a fiery passion that burns through every lie she’s been told about the beautiful, dangerous world of the Fae. But something is not right in the faerie lands. An ancient, wicked shadow is growing, and Feyre must find a way to stop it, or doom Tamlin—and his world—forever.

From bestselling author Sarah J. Maas comes a seductive, breathtaking book that blends romance, adventure, and faerie lore into an unforgettable read.

*Summary from Goodreads*

***Produced by Jen Hardin***

Speaker 1:

It's basically like when you're at like a bar or something and like some creeper dude's like hitting on you and then another attractive guy comes up to you and is like oh hey, there you are, and like pretends to be your boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

And he says oh, there you are, I've been looking for you. Yeah, and scared you literally I highlighted that so much, and you just fall off your chair and die into a puddle of, but it like scares off the other guy.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. That's like what. Hi, I'm Chanel.

Speaker 2:

Hi, I'm Stacy. Hey, nerds, this is.

Speaker 1:

Ashley, and this is fiction fanatics.

Speaker 2:

I hope you guys are ready to talk about Akatar in great detail. I hope they are. I have thoughts. Well, not to get on topic before we even start, but have you read like the non-spoiler reviews for the third Crescent City book?

Speaker 1:

because it's not been great. No, I don't want any. I don't want any spoilers.

Speaker 2:

It's not spoilers at all, it's just I know, but I don't even want to know what. I don't know how Chanel is Remember she wouldn't watch the trailer for the movie of the book that she read.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, I don't want any. I don't even want to know that. I don't know the names of those characters. I don't want to know anything like about anything before I go into those books.

Speaker 2:

I know I didn't know anything about this book and you have thought don't even start this early. This is a point.

Speaker 1:

It is the word I'm kidding. I mean I'm kidding, it's like let down.

Speaker 2:

It's a slow start. It's a slow. It's like really good at introduce the book and we'll get started. Let's do it.

Speaker 2:

Let's just dive, so we will welcome nerds. We are covering a court of thorns and roses by Sarah J Mass. Um, you know, just like so popular this whole series right now and I would also like to say Chanel, to what you just said I've thought is that I too struggled with this, my first three units. I feel like this book series is so hyped up and it's been out for a while that I kind of tried to go into it, knowing that there's no way it can live up to the hype that was going on, because it was just, like you know, presented on such a high level. I still really enjoyed it, I liked it a lot, but I think it's just hard when somebody's hyped up like that and then you didn't read it before, all of that.

Speaker 1:

I should have kind of came into it with low expectations, like lower expectations, but I guess I really like granted, I'm only like on the third book of Throne of Glass, but I really liked that series and so maybe I kind of just was expecting a little more clearly.

Speaker 2:

But I think that the first Throne of Glass book is very similar in the sense that it doesn't. It's like OK, it's good, she's shaking her head.

Speaker 1:

I think it's. I think it's, I would say Throne of Glass is good. I think it's good in, I mean, everything is world building for any fantasy series. Yeah, the first one, I think, throne of Glass. Yes, there's a lot of world building. The biggest difference for me is the characters. I don't like these characters, like, that's the biggest thing. I don't like Pharah Tamlin. I actually I like him Lucent, I really like him actually.

Speaker 2:

Lucent is my babe. I love him, love you, lucie.

Speaker 1:

You don't like the dad, the sisters, and granted, I'm just now, I'm just over halfway and I will say my thoughts have shifted because things have started to happen now.

Speaker 2:

We've met.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you already know. I'm not going to spoil it for anyone except.

Speaker 2:

Chanel, everyone in the world has finished this entire series but you and Ashley, so go ahead and spoil it.

Speaker 1:

Literally. My thoughts are changing. We met Rhysand, I guess that's how you say his name yes, Rhysand. Yeah, I was like oh, finally a good fucking character here. Thank God, Thank.

Speaker 2:

God. You know of our morally gray daddies.

Speaker 1:

Seriously, I was like oh, like literally, when she met him we'll talk about it at fire night, I was like oh, OK, something's, and then he leaves.

Speaker 2:

I was like damn it.

Speaker 1:

But I was like the ball was starting to and then he comes back. Yeah, I was like the ball's starting to roll, but like none of the other characters like inspired anything. Again, tamlin, I was like, ok, I'm liking you more, I'm liking you more Again, lucent, he's provided that witty banter kind of. But I feel like with Throne of Glass, selena, again, because I'm only book three. Ok, mm-hmm, you know. It's also for Ashley. She, I feel like, even though she's kind of like Pharah, she's not like a likeable character you still have. She still has other traits. You know, she's like this ruthless, badass killer. She has wit, she has smarts, she's just she's cunning. You like that. You like Dorian, I feel like Kale, like you like Kale, his backstory, mm-hmm, I'm only on.

Speaker 2:

This is Acre Tar.

Speaker 1:

We are talking about Acre Tar right now, I know, but I'm just saying I'm just saying she's giving you, yeah, she's giving you characters that you like, yeah, I don't like any of these.

Speaker 2:

I get the, I get the vibe, because I felt the same way especially about Pharah when I started the series, that I wasn't a huge fan of her and it's something that kind of bothers me. With the main, I want to like the main character, like instantly but, I, think she intentionally makes you not like very lukewarm or not like these characters. So you then like there's this whole transition where you like fall in love with them, like I think it's yeah, presley, done.

Speaker 2:

I think it's like a slow burn on her part instead of it being like, I think, instead of like introducing a character and then slowly get the flaws and whatever I think you, just how she writes in the series is that you're just like slammed face first and to like these qualities that you don't necessarily like, and then she slow builds their personality up from that Cause. I think you really will like Pharah, you really will.

Speaker 1:

You will.

Speaker 2:

I hope it's coming, I hope it's coming Cause, I think with Selena I think it was kind of the opposite, where you meet her and yeah, she, like you said, you meet her. She's a badass, she's an assassin, she's strong, she's beautiful, she reads books. You learn all that within, like the first, like 15 chapters.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna say yeah, 10 chapters yeah.

Speaker 2:

Cause she is a badass character. I mean, I know we're not talking about chronic last.

Speaker 1:

I'm obsessed with her right now, yeah, but these are the main, very important popular characters and I just feel like, like I would describe Pharah as like gritty, stubborn, very rough around the edges, versus Selena's, like this sleek, like you said, assassin, sharp, like witted, and like they're just opposites to each other and I'm like but wait till, you see how they. Who am I going to choose?

Speaker 2:

I just mean like character wise and I think Ashley is right, You'll really like Pharah as she goes along Like they have like right now. It doesn't seem like in the beginning they have a lot of similarities I guess, but I think that there's both really strong female characters once you get to both of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I definitely can see like, yeah, like I said, I mean she's stubborn headstrong, like obviously she's had to provide for her family, like I'm not saying she, she doesn't have the good qualities within her. I'm just like pours the hell out of me. Anyway, we can start diving into the plot. I was just saying like, yeah, those were my, my initial criticisms is yeah, is the characters.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait to see, when we talk about part two, if your opinion of this is changed and like what you think.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean I can already already at least the plot points, because, like I was saying, I believe it was last episode how slow it was right she was on the grounds and every plot already has, because I'm in the first part of section of the second half and it's already better already, like I said, just by introducing Rhysan. Already it's better.

Speaker 2:

Rhysan save in the series.

Speaker 1:

Literally. If you're a Rhys fan, so am I.

Speaker 2:

I know I instantly want to buy all this merch with like Rhysan stuff on it. Anyways, we'll get into that later, but okay, good. So we are doing part one, which now I don't have my book with me, which I'm mad about. I think it's chapter. I wrote it down. I don't remember what chapter. I ended at the halfway is 23.

Speaker 1:

That's what you're asking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I did exactly halfway. So we thought we're going to cover chapters one through 23 of this and we're starting. So this book opens up. We meet the main character, pharah, and her family. Essentially, like we kind of get her background, her background, we pretty immediately get who she is and like her family's background and how they are. So Pharah, it's Pharah, her dad, and she has two sisters, nesta and Elaine, and they're very poor but they used to be very wealthy. Their dad, like you'll find out later how, but like lost all their money and now they like living this shack and Chanel's right. You kind of instantly don't like any of her family.

Speaker 1:

I'm right about that.

Speaker 2:

You are so correct. So listen, I tell you the story real, it's real fast. When I started reading this book I was starting to Stacy about it. Stacy kept telling me she's like Ashley, you remind me of Nesta, you remind me of Nesta. And then I started this book and I read, like the first chapter about Nesta. I'm like, so you think I'm an asshole? Like I was going to say a BITC. Yeah, I was so offended. I was just like because, like Nesta, she like I know so she's like Nesta has a.

Speaker 1:

I want to screw Nesta's like okay.

Speaker 2:

I'm not trying to interrupt, I'm not going to do spoilers, but I just love Nesta. So that's all I'm going to fucking say. It's a compliment.

Speaker 1:

I know, but I just want to say that, for you to say that.

Speaker 2:

And then I read the first thing they say about Nesta, I was just like oh my God, oh my God, I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch Well.

Speaker 1:

So it's funny because I can see the set, I can see she's really good about setting up stuff because clearly I mean it took a whole half of a book to set up, which we'll talk about what's going on with the fairy world and the problems, basically the whole plot. And like I said, I'm half, I'm over halfway now and we meet up again with Nesta later in the book and already Nesta's quote unquote changed and so I'm like, oh, I'm like a little softer to Nesta now, because I fucking hate it.

Speaker 2:

So I can already see, this was like a burn book for Chanel already, and she's like these fucking bitches. You have Nesta, who's kind of just like this asshole that just expects her youngest sister to do everything and give her money. And then you have Elaine, this middle sister, who was just kind of, kind of like I'm really sweet and can't do anything, but I'll just be here Like they both. They both want to protect her or something. But I'll tell you what I get more annoyed in the first book with Elaine and her being naive and just being like sweet about it. I mean, yeah, nesta's not nice to Farah, but I don't know I get them in my head. I'm like I was just like so annoyed with like Elaine, just like they're.

Speaker 1:

Both are problematic. They both are problematic and I guess I can understand why you like Nesta.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know the future, but like I said I can see the change in her, at least at the halfway point, where Nesta is like she respects Farah and what she did and helped her. You see, like I said, at this halfway point versus Elaine is still kind of ditzy, naive and a little bit oblivious. So I believe you about her having this kind of redemption arc or you know whatever. If we get a future story with her, I would like that, I would want that, so we can. I can see that, ashley, but I can again.

Speaker 2:

I was offended when she first said it.

Speaker 1:

But I can. I can see the parallels as far as like just being very like headstrong and stubborn and like, like what's the right word? Assertive.

Speaker 2:

Look, I'm going to say something that's going to hurt my feelings too.

Speaker 1:

Assertive. Assertive but also just like very protective, I feel like as well, like you wouldn't be the one out, like hunting or something, but you would be like like she was very upset at the dad for not taking care of them, like she kind of had a grudge, you know, you know and was like now that I did feel like I was, like I can hold a grudge.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, like and being like. You know she was upset with the dad for like letting the mom die, like because the dad didn't step up. You know what I mean. Like she felt like the dad should have been the one to step up, like, like, like. So that was the protectiveness Nesta was almost like protecting Pharah, being like you shouldn't be the one to have to step up for this family. It should have been dad. He should have been the one like. He lost our money. He should have like placed it. He shouldn't have let mom die. He should have found a cure for mom. He should have stepped up like. So she almost like even though it came off as her being mad at Pharah, she was almost kind of like, like, protective of Pharah, like being like yeah like, why are you taking care of our family?

Speaker 1:

It's dad's dad, you know. So I see that in you, like you wanted, like protect your, like people that you love and stuff like that you would be like like almost righteous indignation. I'll take that, I'll take that Like you're mad on account of other people. Does that make sense? Like when something happens to the people you love, you get mad for them and they're like not even mad for themselves.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I can get mad yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, so um. So yeah, I can see that like in for hurry and obviously for you yeah.

Speaker 2:

I love it. So, um, so, um, after we, after she kind of gets into her family, pharah is going. She's hunting because her family is basically starving. It sounds like they're all real thin, they're starving. So she's hunting, but it's like the middle of winter, there isn't a lot of like game or anything to get. So she's like way out in the forest and they say like an unsafe part.

Speaker 2:

Because this, I mean, they pretty quickly they bring up fairies and this like wall and the treaty and there's like monsters out there and, um, yeah, she encounters a wall. She sees a deer first and then she sees like this massive wolf and she's, they see, she automatically thinks that it's, it might be a fairy, right, because they know that they can. Yeah, she. So that's what I think is very interesting about her character in the beginning. It and I kind of, I kind of like that about her is that she's smart enough to know when she sees how big this thing is, she's like it could be a fairy. And then you, she has this like internal dialogue, like about, well, is it going to kill me? Should I kill it? Blah, blah, blah. And pretty much she decides well, if it is a fairy, like it deserves to be killed anyway.

Speaker 1:

So she's Hail for him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which is they kind of they drill it in that they should yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's like this, like war between or there was this war between the fairies and the humans, so like, like you said, it's kind of been drilled in their brain, like if I don't kill the fairies then they would kill me.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so yeah, she does. She like, even though this thing sees her and doesn't go to attack her, she kills it and it's all like. I mean, kills it, skins it, leaves it. It's a body out there takes the deer with her. How she's carrying a deer and this like giant wolf pelt thing is beyond me. And yeah, she's like she goes home with it. Her sisters are excited because they think they're going to get money off of this burn.

Speaker 2:

They're already asking her for money before they've even been into the town. So so she's like the next day she's going to take it into town to try to sell it for some money, and then so a couple of things happen on their way to town. Like you meet, you kind of meet like a bunch of people. Like you meet Isaac, which is like this guy that she's quote unquote, kind of like seen, like they hook up and stuff, but doesn't sound like it's anything serious. You meet what's, what's those? Those women, what's their name I don't have it on here Like the sisters of blessed children or the children of the blessed.

Speaker 1:

Let me see.

Speaker 2:

I've, but they're basically like this group of people who are who are saying that fairies those children of the blessed children of the blessed. They don't think that people should be afraid of fairies. They think that they should be like seeking them out and like they come off as like like religious Zellat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they don't like them either, like the three sisters are trying to stay away from her. They.

Speaker 2:

You meet the, not a merchant a mercenary Mercenary who, like she, ends up selling the wolf into. And then she gives her some advice. Sorry the socks, I don't have my book right now. I'm so mad. You're doing great, you're doing good, you're doing great. I'm just fishing for compliments. Okay, but she gives her some advice. I don't remember the advice is so I guess it couldn't have been that important, I don't know. Like she tells her something it was like do you remember Stacy?

Speaker 2:

Like you're shaking your head, like you're just cracking me up because you're doing it, ashley, because you're you're acting like you're doing so bad because you don't have your book to look at your quotes, but you're doing great. I mean, basically, the mercenary is just gives her a little bit extra money for the the wool than like a normal person, and I think I don't remember. Here here.

Speaker 1:

Don't go far in the woods. I wouldn't even get close to where you were yesterday. A wolf this size would be the least of their problems. More and more I've been hearing stories about those things slipping through the wall and then basically, yeah, I mean, that's, that's pretty much. It Like she's just like no one knows what the Fay are planning. We don't know if the High Lords leash on those beasts are slipping in or if they're targeted attacks. And then she kind of tells like her backstory about like how she got like attacked by this Mar tax, which is like, I guess, a type of fairy, but she basically is the first one to tell Farah about. Essentially what we find out is like the you know blight and stuff.

Speaker 2:

But she, I guess I should yeah. Oh, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say no one really knows, like that, that's what it is. You know what I mean. Like they just know that something's happening, but they don't know what it is. You're right, does that make sense?

Speaker 2:

I should mention that Farah killed the wolf with an ash, like a arrow from an ash tree, which is important, supposed to. That's only like she can kill a fairy and she only had one. So she used that because just that'll come into play later. But so yeah she's. They make this trip into town, they get the coins, she hooks up with Isaac and let an awful little steam. She only reprives, she gets from her miserable existence.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Human, true, true. So, and then this next part when I was reading it I was like this guy is so dramatic, is what I was thinking about. He is dramatic, though In like I was dramatic, I was like he like worse than the door. He's like wow.

Speaker 1:

That's what we would say.

Speaker 2:

It just so they're back at their shack in this like one room home or whatever, and this it looks like a beast. I seriously I imagined the beast from Beauty and the Beast literally like riffs this door off, like I mean it makes it sound like he explodes the front end of the house off. It's like raging in here. He's so mad and basically like they're all hiding behind Farrah, like just like her dad is useless Cowards and they're just like hiding and he's like I can either kill you or you have to come with me because you like broke the tree and you killed the family, and when you take me back home with you, he'd say he'd up here to his mom's house. She goes with him and she goes. Well, I think originally too. It's like I can kill you in here or out there for everybody or something. She was actually really brave in this. Some monster was like wanting to kill me. I probably would have like peed my pants and she's just like let's do this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I don't know what I would have done, I probably would have been cowering in the quarters.

Speaker 2:

We would have been Ferris, dad and Elaine. Yeah, because it's not like it's just some man, it's a fucking beast in there Like you know what I mean yeah, that can talk, that can talk.

Speaker 2:

So like it's just like really dramatic encounter. Because she killed his friend. So he's very upset, obviously, and I kind of think I think that's like the main plot point of that, this big story, beast dramatic. And I think that's like the main plot point of that, this big story, beast dramatic. He rips a door off and he's like you're coming with me and Ferris, she like goes, but she's automatically like so they get on a horse together and she's the.

Speaker 2:

Her first thought is like she's like my family is going to starve to death. So like that's all that she's concerned about is her family on the. So she doesn't know where they're going. But on her way there he like uses magic and puts her to sleep Cause so she can't know how to get home with her. So she's like I don't know, so she can't know how to get home. I think is the reason why, or how long of a journey it is. So when she wakes up, she arrives to the, you find out the spring court and to this like massive manner that he lives in, and yeah, so we're in like the fairy world. Yeah, so then we're in. So we get to meet Tamal and he's the High Lord of the spring court and that's the.

Speaker 2:

I just think it's the beast. He's the beast which I think everyone knows is like a beauty of the beast retelling, but I just, I just like picture her coming up to and it's like these beautiful flowers and like sunny and beautiful and nothing like the terrible impoverished that issue with living in. You know what I mean? It's one room shack.

Speaker 1:

But like, and so I think this is admirable for her. Like you kind of mentioned, you know she does feel guilty for, like the first few months she's thinking about her family, like starving, and you know she's like the hunter of her family, and so the whole time, which again took up so much time, she's trying to like her, she's trying to kill them, then she's trying to.

Speaker 2:

Like a butter knife.

Speaker 1:

Like what I know and and then she's trying to like write them letters and then she just she does feel really guilty, Like she made this promise to her mom and she's like what are they thinking? Are they worried about me? Obviously they can't survive without me, like all this stuff. And eventually, like her worries are put to ease because Tamlin tells her once they, once they kind of get like closer and become like more friends and stuff. Because he doesn't tell like he just tells her right away Like don't worry, you're fine, like they're fine, yeah, yeah, but clearly this is like her main file, like can't you see that she's? She's worried, yeah, and also like her biggest concern in her life was like survive you know what I mean, and for her family.

Speaker 1:

But he does eventually tell her like I've taken care of them, I've glamored them, so they think you're taking care of your aunts, rich aunts, somewhere they are literally taken care of money wise, food wise. Like they don't like, there's no concerns for you.

Speaker 2:

Basically, your life has worked out better that you've been kidnapped by me, like they're fine? Yes, I was a little rich lifestyle. Yes, I was a little annoyed by this, though, because it's pretty far into the book that he actually tells her what he did Like.

Speaker 2:

I know he was kind of like they're fine, they're fine. I know I was pretty far into like, because it's like right at the end of the first half of this is when he finally tells her that like actually why she doesn't need to worry about them, I know, and that's why I was like okay, maybe it's because they needed to establish trust and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Like can't you like see slash understand? Like, like I said, like her first and only worry instinct is to survive and to make sure her family survives. So that's why she's doing all of this stuff, why she's trying to leave, trying to kill you, trying to, you know, make sure, like send these letters or make sure they're okay, and yet all you're saying is they're taken care of, they're good, like no, like show proof or tell them or tell her or whatever. So yeah, anyway, but yeah, so once she's finally reassured, I feel like that's when they're like relationship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's not to worry about. But you know whose relationship is great from the beginning. Her illusions is amazing and funny.

Speaker 1:

He's like the pollution, my favorite character.

Speaker 2:

Yeah God, I love him so much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, him, or recent, I don't know. I love Lucian. Yeah, he might be number one, but Listen to this book. He's like, literally, I was like so terrified yet intrigued every time I was reading about you're jumping the gun, chanel.

Speaker 2:

we haven't met him yet. Sorry, go ahead, yeah, let's meet him.

Speaker 1:

He was the first character. He had some heart palpitations. The rest of snooze in here.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, we kind of already touched on it, like we meet Lucian, we meet. Did she say her name Alias or Alice, alice?

Speaker 1:

Alice, alice.

Speaker 2:

Kind of like her she just reminded me of, like a lady in a waiting type situation, like she takes care of Farah while she's there and she's the one who kind of she's not the only one. But they like tell her that there's a blight on like all the fairies, like with their magic and all these like bad fairies are getting into their, into like the spring court and stuff like that. But they really don't go into detail about like why this happened, what it is. You don't have a clear understanding of what's going on, and part of that is they often wear like these masquerade masks all the time, like Lucian's is a fox, tamlin's is this like a beast? I guess I remember what his mask looks like. I don't think his is, I don't remember. I think his is just like a half gold thing, like I don't think it's a specific animal.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't really have a thing.

Speaker 2:

Lucian's actually look like an animal, like a fox. Can you fucking imagine having a mask stuck on your face forever? Like no cause?

Speaker 1:

how can you see?

Speaker 2:

you have no peripheral vision, like the sweat would be I didn't even think about peripheral. Like a horse. You know, like when I put those things on horses, yeah, oh my God, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, she knows like speechless, she's like oh my God, yeah, wow. Also think about the acne under there the sweat that would cause the acne. I know, fairies don't have acne. They're beautiful, they're like vampires, they're just always beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Okay, they sparkle.

Speaker 2:

And they sparkle, okay. So Lucian and Farrah's relationship is really funny Cause it's kind of like this love hate relationship, like they both kind of give each other a hard time, and you can tell that. And I struggled with this a little bit Cause you know I was kind of mad at Farrah for a while that she killed that other fairy that was their friend it was really sad, yeah, and you know Lucian's really upset about it.

Speaker 2:

So he kind of you can tell he doesn't want to like her, but he starts to like her and they have like this banter and you can tell they're becoming like friends. But she wants answers for things and she I don't remember exactly what she's told about this Is that a serial? Is that?

Speaker 1:

how you say it.

Speaker 2:

The serial. I said the serial. Serial, I say serial. No, I'm just kidding how Chanel said it's the correct way.

Speaker 1:

Talk about one of my favorite characters.

Speaker 2:

That's one of them Always bring in the tea, always bring in the tea. So, like you know, lucian tells her how to meet this thing, this fairy that's like super dangerous and so it's going to be hard to catch, and he's just like oh, if you scream, I'll be close enough to hear you to help you. Basically that's why I love Lucian. He's like just go for it, babe, I got you. Like what's the worst? That's going to happen. He just sends out on the death sentence with like a dagger. It's not all he gives her is like one dagger or something. Yeah, she's definitely not like super trained into fighting or anything, you know.

Speaker 1:

Against a fairy yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, like she goes out into the woods and like I don't, I should I don't have it with me, obviously but she like does everything that he's said to do and she does, she captures this, yeah, captures it, which, honestly, is amazing. This human girl is capturing this fairy. It's very impressive. She asked some questions that now I don't remember and don't have it with me, but I know, like the big, like the big saying that is taken away from this. It tells Farah to stay with the High Lord. He'll protect you, to always, always, stay with the High Lord.

Speaker 1:

Yes, like you said, because he'll protect. He'll protect you. Thank you, let me see. I was like I did. Actually, I was like what are all these notes for? Um, is there truly no way for me to go home? Not unless you seek to be killed and your family with you. You must remain here, um. What do you want to know about Tamlin? More specific human, be more specific, for I know a good many things about the high Lord of the spring court. The earth tilted beneath me. Tamlin is Tamlin's.

Speaker 1:

A high Lord, you did not know, interesting, and now she's just thinking. A high Lord of Perthian. Did you also not know that this is the spring court, little human? Yes, yes, I knew about that. Spring, summer, autumn, winter, dawn, day, night, it mused the seven court courts of Perthian, each ruled by a high Lord, all of them deadly in their own way. They're not merely powerful, they are power. Everyone at the spring court is stuck wearing a mask, and yet you are, I said cautiously, are you not a member of the court? I'm a member of no court. I'm older than the high Lords, older than Perthian or older than the bones of the world. What can be done about this blight that is spread and stealing, altering magic. Where did it come from? Stay with the high Lord, human. That's all you can do. You will be safe. Do not interfere. Do not go looking for answers after today, or you will be devoured by the shadow over Perthian. He will shield you from it. So stay close to him and all will be righted. That's all.

Speaker 2:

I said I know I love it, I just love it. It's like I can't say anymore, but I love it, I just love, because I think this kind of shows. It really is a big deal that she caught this, this fairy, this creature.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's huge deal.

Speaker 2:

It's so old, so powerful and so scary and knowledgeable.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think it shows in the beginning she does hump, but she's so starved she's not strong physically, she can't read. There's a lot of. I think this is kind of showing like she's young. She's not physically strong because she's starved. She's not mentally strong because she spent her entire life trying to survive. Now she's in with these fairies who are like leagues above her but like it's still deep inside of her. Some fairies can't even catch that thing to like talk to them, and the big thing is that they can't lie. So I just think that's our first like real good glimmer of how strong of a character she can be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I also really liked and I thought it was, I thought it was smart, but actually Lucian pointed out that it was like merciful, so I guess it was both. But so there are Nagas. These like shadow-scaled creatures end up coming right when she's in the middle of talking to the cereal and so they start like going after her and the cereals, like let me go. He's like you know, I can like get them and you know like flee safe or whatever, because he's like trapped in this trap, like hanging by his, like feet or whatever.

Speaker 1:

And so I was thinking to myself, I guess, if I was her as this hunter because she has like her bow and arrows I was thinking like to be smart, shoot at the snare that you had for the cereal, let him drop and to like distract these like shadow creatures so that you can have like more time to run. That's what I was thinking like as like a strategy, and she ends up doing that. But, like I said, it ends up being a way to like to be like merciful so that those shadow creatures don't attack this fairy. And like because he was he was like so vulnerable, hanging up there by himself he was saying like human, human, save me. Like you know, he was saying like one, I can like help you, but also like to save my life. And so when she told Lucy and that later on, like a chapter or two later, he was like wow, like that was pretty decent of you to like do that, like most fairies, like people wouldn't do that, and I was like oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was like I thought of it more strategically to like save some time, because basically, like all hell breaks loose because the cereal does get away, and but then these monster monsters are attacking her and she does scream ain't nobody coming? So where are you? I know, but she does like it's really insane to me because not only does she catch the first, very I think, she kills two of the. I think there's like four or five of them that are attacking her. She kills two of them. I mean she gets, she's getting beat up in the process, but then I think the third one's about to kill her. Finally, tamlin gets there and he saves her, but still for this human girl to like kill two fairies, capture one of them, the whole thing was insane, wild, it was wild.

Speaker 1:

Wild, but Lucy admits that he like, hesitated, like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he heard her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was pretty shitty.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm Lucian, it really was. And then so like, after all of this happens and we kind of talked about this already, once she gets back to the manner and stuff and let me know if I'm skipping anything, because I feel like maybe something else happened in here, but now I don't remember fair finds out Tamlin tells her like what he did to her family, why they're not worried about her and why they're like Okay, yeah, we've kind of like, after he saves her, I'm gonna as this like layer of kind of trust, like friendship, like they can actually talk to each other more. And then I think, because Luchian hesitated and then he realizes that she was merciful, I think it even adds more to their relationship, to. So it's just and we're doing that like slow build of she's kind of understanding more about the very world, these people, and it's yeah, and then she's going to fill even more of these because she knows her family is not starving to death.

Speaker 1:

Two months later no big deal. Yeah, they're alive.

Speaker 2:

The relationship is definitely growing and I mean, for me I started to like favor more here and the other team went a little bit and the characters were growing on me at this point and then we get into this like festival type thing happening, the great right. This is how I want to imagine my fairies partying, drinking, banging like under the moonlight, like let me know I mean, that's what it was like. After I read, I was like oh so this is like a sex festival, basically.

Speaker 2:

Yes that's yes. Yeah, the sex festival where basically, like, tamlin picks a female to go into this cave with and, like, have a bunch of sex with I don't know. It sounds like people watch them and stuff.

Speaker 1:

It was okay. This is my issue again why I didn't like Farah. You have Tamlin and Lucen, which I get. You know you still don't really like them, but like both of them are like, this is basically like a dangerous night. It's like, you know, whatever the like spring solstice or whatever you want to call it, and there's going to be fairies around which you are everywhere, Everywhere.

Speaker 1:

It's going down, like you know and already I mean, you're scared of fairies, they're dangerous, like they're not like us. They told them. Both of them told her multiple times stay in your room, lock the door, don't come out. And she's just so stubborn and stupid. I'm going to say stupid because she's making leaves and she's like I just felt like a calling and I just felt like I just had to go.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't want to go see what's out there. I'd want to go and see what's out there.

Speaker 1:

Look through the freaking window. Of course Stacey was Stay in the little garden or whatever and peek through the bushes, but like she's like wandering around like in the freaking bonfires, this is a favorite.

Speaker 2:

I mean she's not like we're NASA's. Very no way be going out there getting killed. I was going to say this is why you guys would be final girls and make it to the end of the horror movie and I'd be like the first one out. I'd be like, oh, I'm just going to go check to see what that noise was at the basement.

Speaker 1:

I was literally reading it. I'm just like something bad is going to happen, like you know something bad. And then, of course, these fairies stumble upon her, like on picture.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, all I was picturing was like these three hags, like, just like yeah, yeah, she's braver than me, because there's no way I would have just wandered out into this like field area alone in the dark.

Speaker 2:

And so yeah, these three fairies show up and they're yeah, they're going to, they want to attack her, basically. And then it's the part that we all love and the shiny beacon of this, of this book. So this other fairy shows up and Pharah literally says it's the most handsome man she's ever seen in her life. Like automatically and she doesn't know who it is, Like he doesn't introduce himself.

Speaker 1:

He just like. He just like. It's basically like when you're at like a bar or something and like some creeper dudes like hitting on you, and then another attractive guy comes up to you and is like oh hey, there you are, and like pretends to be your boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

And he says oh, there you are, I've been looking for you. Yeah, and you literally I highlighted that so much, and you just fall off your chair and die into a puddle of, but it like scares off the other guy.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. That's like what it's.

Speaker 2:

The other fairies are terrified, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because everyone else knows who he is.

Speaker 2:

That's the thing. Other people know who he is. That's why they're afraid. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but she doesn't. She's like I don't know who this handsome guy is, and she's straight up.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

No, I was just going to say she's, like you know, starstruck.

Speaker 2:

And he's just, and she like straight up why she's like I'm here with some friends. And he's like, oh, are you what friends? Like it's so funny to hear her be like yeah, I'm here with some friends. There's this one human who's here with a bunch of fairy friends and so like, and now this is kind of fuzzy. What happens? Because he doesn't stay around very like. No, he leaves after that. Yeah, this tiny conversation. And he leaves. And she like leaves, like she sees Lucian or something, I think, and like, right, what happens next?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and she. So she goes back into into the house and and she's, she's like, goes to like her painting room or whatever and is like for the rest of the night. And then, of course, she's like it's whatever. Two AM, the festival is like winding down and she's like jealous or whatever. And she's like, oh, I want to glass a milk or something, whatever the hell she wants. And she again, instead of staying in her fucking room, she like wanders downstairs for a glass of milk and Tamlin's done with his sex room. Sex evade, yeah, sex evade, janet Jackson's sex evade. And he catches her like whatever on the stairs. I'm making that up, but he catches her and he was like I smelt you.

Speaker 1:

And then we've been in a long, beautiful, foggy old hair behind his head.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he was like he's like all amped up. He's like well, I shouldn't have like growling and stuff.

Speaker 1:

He is he's all amped up. Yeah, he was like where were you? I smelled you on the ground, you were de-round, and so she was like, and she's like caught off guard, and then he like backs her into a wall and then he bites her neck, yeah, he just like bites her.

Speaker 2:

He's being a little sassy with him, though, like she says a couple of sassy things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I have it. And then she's like she, literally. He said you drove me mad. I searched for you when you weren't there. When I didn't find you, it made me pick another.

Speaker 2:

So why do you got to read it like that? Can you please read the whole book like this?

Speaker 1:

And then I'm skipping parts. And then she this is what she says why should I want someone's leftovers? And then she tries to like push him away and that's when he bites her. And then all of a sudden then he like you know, they're like pushing back and forth and she like hits him, she slaps him in the face and he goes don't ever disobey me again. Because he's mad that she left his room. And she says don't tell me what to do and don't bite me, like an enraged beast.

Speaker 2:

That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it I love that.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, Mel.

Speaker 2:

That was amazing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he better not tell me what to do. And then he says he growled, then he walks away.

Speaker 2:

I told you it was growling. He was all amped up. He was all amped up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I guess we should point out, since, because you said she came from her painting room, I forgot to say that Farrah loves to paint. She even, like, painted some stuff at the shack and he bought her, like he shows her a gallery, that's in the manner. And then he buys her all these really fancy paints, a bunch of canvases, and she paints all the time. Which side? No, have you guys heard the funny theory about her in her painting? I've seen it on TikTok.

Speaker 1:

No, no Is this a spoiler?

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, it's not a spoiler. People are convinced that she's actually a terrible painter Because, if you notice, nobody ever tells her her paintings are good and then like so I knew this before. I was like reading the book and then I was reading it and nobody does ever tell her that her paintings are good, like I mean, you'll see, like when she shows people they're not, like, oh, this is terrible, but nobody's ever like, oh, my god, yeah, it is. The joke is that she's a bad painter.

Speaker 2:

We don't actually could be, I mean, I don't think she is, but that's just the joke. You know that she's actually a bad painter.

Speaker 1:

No, I think, I think he does say it's beautiful, because literally I'm at the part when he, when she like gives, she's like showing him the first time all of her paintings, and he's like I want Well yeah see, like he doesn't say it's bad, but he doesn't say it's good. I want it, I want that one, and what is it? And she's like no, it's cool. And he's like I want it all the same. I'll. I want it nonetheless.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like he wants her paint, like a painting that she's done but he's never like this is amazing. But also I want all Toby's finger paintings. He does and they look terrible, so like.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think I thought he said it was beautiful. I thought it Wait let me see that's.

Speaker 2:

that's why it's a joke. She now doesn't believe me.

Speaker 1:

I know it's straight and they're not like, they're not as good as the ones you have here, but I wanted you to see this one. It's for you, it's a gift, he said. I know what it is.

Speaker 2:

He did, but he never said she does like I know what it is.

Speaker 1:

That's all he said. Oh, he said that's your forest, that's where you wanted Hunted. This is your life. That's all he said. The man, oh, he said. He said the man. This is the only one that says everything Just sometimes silence says everything. This is the only one with any brightness. You're right.

Speaker 2:

That's like my favorite phrase in the world, by the way. You're right, you're right, make it. I am an asshole.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be on the lookout now because?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I was too, and you let me know if you find it, because I don't ever recall it in this book. Anybody saying there's a good painter.

Speaker 1:

But honestly, ok, I'm not. I am not a connoisseur of any kind of art, I just love art. It's, you know, obviously. Well, not obviously, but you guys know I love art and it's very subjective, truly. I mean, yeah, I don't like modern art at all, but if anyone is listening, modern art is the most subjective of them all. Right, you can have a frickin red dot and someone will be like that is the most 500 grand, I'll take it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 1:

OK, but then someone you know they'll pay thousands and thousands of dollars for a red dot and then someone else will paint a frickin expressionist painting of, and paint just the same amount of money Like. That is very subjective and the art work they're both in a gallery, they're both you know. So so maybe her, her art, is subjective.

Speaker 2:

Is yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and Tamlin thinks that that is a piece. They're lazy sauce, you know he loves it he loves it, you know anyway, and he would pay thousands of dollars to display that your painting.

Speaker 2:

It's not that I'm just kidding, but after all of this they get a lot closer, because how can you not get close to somebody after they buy you? I guess you know boundaries are just down at this point. You know which. They've been liking each other anyway. It's a little bit by. Then they're like out on the ground, like the spring court is beautiful. He's taken our couple places during this book.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say, yeah, like to a magical place. Yeah, yeah, it goes.

Speaker 2:

Swimming in Starlight or something is what it's called.

Speaker 1:

They're swimming in Starlight.

Speaker 2:

You're in Starlight. What a day and they're kind of joking around. But he like offers her this deal for a kiss, that a whole show or magic or something, so she accepts and basically she's been under a glamour and so she has not been seen. What's that? Which also I found this so funny. Later we'll get it to it, but she has not really been seen. What's going on here?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

And I do love her for this. She does kiss him, but it's like on the back of his hand. She refuses to give him a kiss. Kiss for it. But when you find out, like all the stuff she hasn't been seen because she's glamored like there's fairies all over the manner.

Speaker 1:

Everywhere.

Speaker 2:

She points us out a couple of times like food will just appear and there's all this stuff and she can't figure out because it's just like and all she's been seen is her Lucien and Alice, Like those are a tamlin. There's like it makes them like, there's like just dozens of fairies everywhere.

Speaker 1:

So like hundreds sneaking around yeah.

Speaker 2:

She's been sneaking around the manner at night. All these fairies are watching her. She thinks she's being so sneaky Like she's so embarrassed which I didn't see that coming like a glamour or something like that. It was really interesting yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean even Alice. She thought she was like this plump old lady and she's like withered and like just very old, and not what she looked like, what she thought. So yeah, it was just. Yeah, she's just. Her whole world kind of shifted a bit, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I think that's a big deal with her and Tamlin's relationship too, because I think the reason he even offered that is he wanted her to see what was really going on. Because, again, he liked her, he trusts her. You can tell he's having romantic feelings for her.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, like legit, see into his world Right. Yeah, the other thing we kind of skipped over. I don't know like how big it kind of goes into, like the whole blight thing, but the fairy that's died from yeah, oh yeah, we did skip over that and it's so heartbreaking, this one I really you really kind of like fair after this.

Speaker 2:

So I don't remember exactly in this timeline where it happens, but they describe this fairy because, like Tamlin's been protecting the borders a lot, trying to protect the spring core, and so he's gone a lot like fighting and stuff, and this fairy is brought in who's like? It's so sad the way to describe it. Somebody has literally ripped his wings off and he's in so much pain and they put him like on the dining room table and he's dying and fairer comes down. There's basically nothing they can do, like they're trying to be helpful, but she holds his hand and he just keeps saying they took my wings, they took my wings, it's that.

Speaker 2:

And then fairer is like you'll get them back, right, like I have it highlighted my book with me. She's like you'll get them back, and I think he asked do you promise or something? And she says yes, and then he like he dies after that and and it's just really sweet because Tamlin and Lucian are trying to be helpful but they obviously really don't know how to comfort him and fairer was the one that was like really there for him, so it wasn't quote unquote dying alone. And also, I think this is when Lucian really starts to like like fairer more. Yeah, she's just there for this poor fairy, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because she was like I just wouldn't want to like die that way, like I wouldn't want to die alone, like that. That's, whether that was a fairy or, you know, a human person, they shouldn't have to like suffer and die alone like that. And, like you said, it kind of changed the way I feel, like Tamlin and Lucent saw her, you know, like she had, yeah, definitely sympathy and compassion for this fairy, you know. So, yeah, that was, yeah, that was such a sad scene.

Speaker 2:

It was sad, but it was like it was big growth for a fairer too, I feel like. So, yeah, and that's part one, like that's where we're in to it, so she can see the magic. That's actually a really good like halfway point. How it ends is like I think so. But and also I think, you know, it's probably a good thing that she couldn't see everything as it was going when she first got there, because it's so overwhelming as it is for her.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then, like the second half, I just feel like it's straight chaos from here on out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is, it is.

Speaker 2:

Just straight up chaos in the best way, Like I can appreciate the book a lot after finishing it because it was so slow in the beginning, but I'm telling you like the last half of this book is so great I feel like.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like that's like that's a lot of books that we talk about. We're always like, yeah, part one it kind of eases you, but then part two is always just like jam-packed. It's always like that Because, again, I'm just like heading just the beginning of part two and already I feel like it's going to be hard to try to break it down into just a couple of main points because there's so much happening already. It's like mm-hmm. It's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So stay tuned. Stay tuned for part two. It's going to be epic. Yeah, Part two is crazy great. So how far are you? Are you finished now, Chanel?

Speaker 1:

No, I'm like what chapter am I on right now? 32.

Speaker 2:

So I'm like 75% of the way I give you another 10% and you're not going to be able to stop reading it and it's going to consume you Again.

Speaker 1:

stings or it just keeps.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's just such a theme with Sergi Amas is writing. Is it just like you know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

It's like a roller coaster kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

She's really good with the endings of books, in my opinion. For the ones I've read anyway, for the most part, oh gosh, they end pretty epically.

Speaker 1:

OK, ok, well, that's good, that's good to know. They should have that disclaimer then, because the starts are a little.

Speaker 2:

I know the start is hard in this one.

Speaker 1:

They should be like but just this one.

Speaker 2:

Which one is the second book, the first 10 pages. You're like oh my god, holy shit. Yeah, ok, I start again. Buckle up, buckle up, buckle up, we jump into some kudos. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Let's do it. Ok, I'll go first again, because I just keep going first for some reason. Go ahead, nesta. Oh yeah, so I've been babysitting, slash, like nannying, for a week. My nephew Paxton he's so cute. My kudos is for all the moms, because I don't know how people do this. I swear to God. I've been texting Stacy nonstop. Even my mom. I've been texting her. I texted my friend Jen. I've been texting Ashlyn and I'm here with her. I'm just like you guys are amazing. You're amazing. I don't know how you say sane. I don't know how you get anything done. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

My friend Ashley. I texted her. I was like, how did you shower when you had a baby? And she's like, I just put him in a chair on the bathroom floor and he just screamed for 10 minutes as I showered really quickly. Yeah, imagine taking a shower for your day and somebody's just screaming at you. Yes, I can actually imagine such a thing.

Speaker 1:

I know that's supposed to be like your private thought.

Speaker 2:

But now, well, you know what it turns into Chanel is then after they can walk and stuff, then it turns into I'm showering and I look down and Toby's at the glass mirror, like the glass door, like this, like banging to get in. That's what my jet does. That's why dogs do. So. Yeah, my kudos is just for my mom, Stacy, Jen, Ashlyn, Ashley, who, my little Julie, our sister Julie, who I love my Jack, or I love my nephew Jack, but he's a wild man in the best way, Like I don't know. I mean like he's always running around when I branch off to Julie, he's never just sitting down somewhere. He's Donnie from the Wild Thornberries, that wild child.

Speaker 1:

I find that is who Jack is is Donnie.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, oh my god, I forgot. And Sarah, like our friend Sarah, they have a second kid. Now I know I'm forgetting other moms. Just all the moms out there, like you guys, are incredible.

Speaker 1:

Tren.

Speaker 2:

Tren, she's got two. I mean I don't know. These people amazing, all of them, all the moms, you guys are incredible.

Speaker 1:

I did owe that who goes to you forever. I did owe that because I mean I can't imagine it, I don't want to imagine it, you don't want to imagine it, so I definitely I did owes that. So go ahead, you can finish, ashley. I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 2:

That's it, my whole kudos. I mean it's one, but it's like a ton of people. It's every single mom that I know it's one, and it's a new year.

Speaker 2:

I have so much respect for you guys. I will never be annoyed if you can't do something because you got a kid, Because you know what? I wouldn't be doing anything if I had a kid Like, yeah, coming to me, I ain't going, Absolutely. They see, nobody got face at me, I love you. No, it's just like the perfect Ashley's telling me this, Like she was texting telling me this, and then the same night that she texted me this, a few days ago, Toby was sitting on my lap watching like something on his iPad and he just turned around for no reason and then grabbed my face really quick and scraped me.

Speaker 2:

He was just playing rough and I didn't mean to, but I kind of like gated him off my lap like a reaction because it hurt. Like he was just like, well, yeah, and so then he just fell on the couch. I just put him off my lap, but he hit his face on the iPad so he had like a little red mark. So then he's crying. Then I was crying. This Theo was like what the fuck is going on? I would have been like trying again, buddy, to be the other face or the other side of the face. That's pretty much the most basic representation of motherhood that I can be Everybody's crying.

Speaker 1:

Yes, baby crying, mom crying, go to the space, go ahead sis.

Speaker 2:

So my kudos this week is for Nora, or for Nora who's been on the podcast. Nora, I haven't seen her in like months in person, versus like when we got to speak on Zoom, and she actually came up with her husband, sam, and homemade pot pie and brought dinner up here for me and Theo and Toby and we watched 10 Things. We Hate About you, I hate about you and I just love her it was like a really good mental health break.

Speaker 2:

Nora's the best she is and she's just reading more fan fiction and stuff. Now We've just been talking about it and she's watching season five of Fargo because I told her to watch it. So it's such a good show, so good. That's it, yanni. We're boring Chanel. Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1:

No, it's because it's so late, 9.30.

Speaker 2:

Because Chanel's been literally working all day, 9.30.

Speaker 1:

So late. Well, my kudos is to you guys because I love you both, but especially to Stacy, who made and finished my binding of the Folk of Air series, so she brought it over and it's so beautiful and I love it and I wait to read it. So, yeah, I love you both. That's so sweet. Yeah, I love you. Thank you, stacy.

Speaker 2:

Anything for you. I just finished the Queen of Nothing, the last book, and it's amazing. I can't stop thinking about it. I want to reread it again and catch up.

Speaker 1:

So you're going to read the other little novellas and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's on my list. I have them on hold. On Libby, my brain is going to explode. I'm reading so much stuff Like I need to chill.

Speaker 1:

I need to chill. Yeah, Well, thanks everyone for listening.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we can't wait for you to hear part two, where we really start getting into it. Did you hear my knuckles crack when I did that? Like a boss, like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's when everything picks up. It picks up.

Speaker 2:

All right, stacy, you want to lead us out? Now she's got to lead us out Chanel, your favorite thing.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to lead us out.

Speaker 2:

OK, everyone have a great week. Thanks for listening to us Nerds and make sure you read what you like.

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